F1 Pre-Season Testing 2025, Feb 26-28

GravyMonster · 2025-02-26T10:53:42+0000

Congrats Antonelli on the 2025 WDC. I've just bet my mortgage, pension and kids university funds on him at 100/1. Easy money. Give him the trophy now. Everyone go home.

Mr Jack · 2025-02-26T11:04:24+0000

GravyMonster said:
Congrats Antonelli on the 2025 WDC. I've just bet my mortgage, pension and kids university funds on him at 100/1. Easy money. Give him the trophy now. Everyone go home.

You're in the money! Actually, looking at the odds you can get, both Antonelli at 80:1 and Hamilton on 7:1 look like reasonable punts.

sidimmu · 2025-02-26T11:07:46+0000

I love pre season malarkey.

Antonelli's lap time would not even land him in P20 at Bahrain qualifying in 2024.

Junglist · 2025-02-26T11:20:32+0000

Mr Jack said:
Anyone know if there is a site listing every lap time through the days, and showing run lengths and tyres, etc. like there were in some previous seasons? Or has F1M stamped down on all that?

f1-dash | Formula 1 live timing

Experience live telemetry and timing data from Formula 1 races. Get insights into leaderboards, tire choices, gaps, lap times, sector times, team radios, and more.

f1-dash.com

I was using this site earlier for live tracking, sector and tyre info.

GravyMonster · 2025-02-26T11:30:13+0000

Mr Jack said:
You're in the money! Actually, looking at the odds you can get, both Antonelli at 80:1 and Hamilton on 7:1 look like reasonable punts.

They must have shortened already as I checked on Bet365 and he actually was 100/1 :cry:

Mr Jack · 2025-02-26T11:36:26+0000

Junglist said:
I was using this site earlier for live tracking, sector and tyre info.

Thanks, but I have Live Timing so I can get that stuff. What I was looking for is a site that lists all the laps through the day rather than just giving live data. Testing times are never that meaningful, but without seeing run lengths and how times evolve through a longer run they're even worse.

sidimmu said:
Antonelli's lap time would not even land him in P20 at Bahrain qualifying in 2024.

Yeah, but that's set in warmer conditions, on a more rubbered in track, and with faster tyres a lower fuel load.

sidimmu · 2025-02-26T11:44:47+0000

Mr Jack said:
Yeah, but that's set in warmer conditions, on a more rubbered in track, and with faster tyres a lower fuel load.

And testing times are meaningful?

Mr Jack · 2025-02-26T11:51:33+0000

Results from the first morning, pretty good number of laps all round, with only Aston lagging a bit:

1 Antonelli 1m31.428s (78 laps)
2 Lawson +0.132s (58 laps)
3 Albon +0.145s (63 laps)
4 Tsunoda +0.182s (77 laps)
5 Hamilton +0.406s (70 laps)
6 Doohan +0.413s (68 laps)
7 Alonso +0.446s (46 laps)
8 Piastri +0.656s (65 laps)
9 Hulkenberg +0.741s (55 laps)
10 Bearman +4.094s (72 laps)

cuke2u · 2025-02-26T13:08:11+0000

sidimmu said:
And testing times are meaningful?

Quite, I just waiting for either Lewis or Max to top the times then someone stating it's their championship to lose

sidimmu · 2025-02-26T13:13:07+0000

cuke2u said:
Quite, I just waiting for either Lewis or Max to top the times then someone stating it's their championship to lose

Quite as in not?
Testing means nothing and shouldn't be used as markers for the year ahead.

Junglist · 2025-02-26T13:14:20+0000

Where is the fun in that?!

Mesai · 2025-02-26T13:20:31+0000

sidimmu said:
Quite as in not?
Testing means nothing and shouldn't be used as markers for the year ahead.

For smaller gaps I'd agree, but we've seen multiple instances where 1 team is just miles ahead/comfortable, and that translated into season standings.

The current standings look promising in terms of close racing.

Mr Jack · 2025-02-26T13:25:08+0000

Russell faster than Kimi already! Mercedes' golden boy is a busted flush!

sidimmu said:
Testing means nothing and shouldn't be used as markers for the year ahead.

Nah. Testing only means nothing if you only look at the headline times. While there can be some slight shifting of the order between testing and season start, it's usually very clear what the running order of the teams is going into the first race. Less so this year than of late, I guess, since we're testing at Bahrain but thankfully starting the season in Oz.

Compare, for example, The Race's analysis of Testing 2024 to how the season began.

sidimmu · 2025-02-26T13:25:24+0000

Mesai said:
For smaller gaps I'd agree, but we've seen multiple instances where 1 team is just miles ahead/comfortable, and that translated into season standings.

The current standings look promising in terms of close racing.

Before lunch Williams in 3rd and Mclaren 8th... difference half a second.
Carlos set the fastest time of 2024 testing, where did that translate to? 5th with over 140 points away from champion.

I do agree there is some close times, is this teams being close? Or just everyone sandbagging to a certain level? Williams might be sandbagging 10%, where as mclaren 30%?

Mr Jack · 2025-02-26T14:11:32+0000

Red flag due to a partial power cut at the station, that's a new one.

iamtheoneneo · 2025-02-26T14:41:48+0000

sidimmu said:
Testing means nothing and shouldn't be used as markers for the year ahead.

Its even more irrelevant this season due to the randomly timed pending wing change.

sidimmu · 2025-02-26T14:56:05+0000

iamtheoneneo said:
Its even more irrelevant this season due to the randomly timed pending wing change.

Or due to the lack of changes to the car and engines.

Slam62 · 2025-02-26T15:03:27+0000

What’s going on?

Mr Jack · 2025-02-26T15:20:25+0000

Slam62 said:
What’s going on?

There was a regional power cut and they lost power to all the lighting, radios, etc. so it was suspended for about an hour.

Mr Jack · 2025-02-26T15:35:26+0000

Looks like Merc have Porpoising again, although that might just be them exploring the limits of their setup. Session has been extended by an hour to make up for time lost in the powercut.