F1 Testing 2014: Week 3 Bahrain
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totally agree where you are coming from - I would like to see a formula where its less aero based, and much more on mechanical performance. Im all for "boffins" like Newey in the background, but it still takes away from actual driving ability in some respects (not to mention less aero would also make overtaking more about the driver in each car)
The cars should also have engines that are based on production models, not some technological combination that no manufacturer uses.
Personally having one chassis (and multiple engines, to keep the manufacturers interested) imo would be a bad idea. Yes it reduces costs, but (being an engineer myself) I like seeing the different designs on the cars and why they work / dont work rather than just little differentiating apart from branding
More great lotus stuff
In finding out funny now.. Or I will cry Lmao
On the one engine thing.. I would personally haute that
Same as last year for McLaren
Sutil (Sauber) 36
Bottas (Williams) 29
Kobayashi (Caterham) 25
Alonso (Ferrari) 19
Vettel (Red Bull) 18
Vergne (Toro Rosso) 14
Chilton (Marussia) 10
Hulkenberg (Force India) 9
Button (McLaren) 8
Grosjean (Lotus) 6
Hamilton (Mercedes) 0
1 Bottas Williams 1m34.797s
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Carbon rims? That's new isn't it?
Impressed to see a lot of RB laps today, not so impressed with Lotus though. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't run in Q1 in Aus at this rate.
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Spoke too soon, RB have stopped on track.
Re Sunamas comment about coming with a 'safe' package first - you don't win at F1 if you play it safe.
I think Newey is thinking that when this package works, it'll be unbeatable. How long it takes to iron out the kinks is the gamble (kinda like McLaren last year, and we know how well that worked out).
Impressed to see a lot of RB laps today, not so impressed with Lotus though. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't run in Q1 in Aus at this rate.
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Spoke too soon, RB have stopped on track.
Re Sunamas comment about coming with a 'safe' package first - you don't win at F1 if you play it safe.
I think Newey is thinking that when this package works, it'll be unbeatable. How long it takes to iron out the kinks is the gamble (kinda like McLaren last year, and we know how well that worked out).
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Knurling to dissipate tyre heat.
Vettel off at turn one, sounds like it might be a braking issue like we've seen with other cars.
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Fast but utterly unreliable always used to be Newey's trademark. Schui vs. Newey and all that.
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Is there any way to look more like a loser than doing the loser sign the wrong way around Helps that he's rich and has won everything I guess.
Red Bull started the day semi promisingly though with poor times in general. The live timing data last year was brilliant, this year, awful. Last year you could see how many laps say Vettel did and see the times and how much they drop over a stint. I'd kill to see comparisons of the various race sims.
It feels with what very little data we get, that the RBR is way off the pace. I can't see any reason with a difficult car to go full fuel and the number of laps they do in any of their longer runs suggests as much, in which case the only times they've been doing across all three tests look really uncompetitive. Their one seeming qualy run was 2.5seconds off the pace and their general one stop stint they've tried seems to be pretty slow.
Lotus stopped on track again..... Hard to know what their problems are down to. They really looked comparatively strong at the first Bahrain test, they did almost as much as Red Bull and over half what TR had done with half the testing time, considering the second test you would expect far more mileage than the first test, having over half what the other two main Renault cars managed was encouraging for a effective first test. But this one has been a disaster. Frankly I expected after Bahrain for Lotus to maybe be closer to the TR in lap count here.
Helps that he's rich and has won everything I guess.Red Bull started the day semi promisingly though with poor times in general. The live timing data last year was brilliant, this year, awful. Last year you could see how many laps say Vettel did and see the times and how much they drop over a stint. I'd kill to see comparisons of the various race sims.
It feels with what very little data we get, that the RBR is way off the pace. I can't see any reason with a difficult car to go full fuel and the number of laps they do in any of their longer runs suggests as much, in which case the only times they've been doing across all three tests look really uncompetitive. Their one seeming qualy run was 2.5seconds off the pace and their general one stop stint they've tried seems to be pretty slow.
Lotus stopped on track again..... Hard to know what their problems are down to. They really looked comparatively strong at the first Bahrain test, they did almost as much as Red Bull and over half what TR had done with half the testing time, considering the second test you would expect far more mileage than the first test, having over half what the other two main Renault cars managed was encouraging for a effective first test. But this one has been a disaster. Frankly I expected after Bahrain for Lotus to maybe be closer to the TR in lap count here.
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William's in it's new Martini livery
http://www.f1today.net/en/photos/f/5303fa2253a89fc4fe2faca3cbd5e13fb6b6e3bc3a729.jpg
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That's at least a week old and it seems to be 50/50 as to whether it's a dodgy mock-up or a photo of a dodgy livery.
Button was on sky moaning about the car not being fast enough. Won't know till Q3 at the first race.
" The McLaren has stopped at the end of the back straight."
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Rosberg's lap yesterday was on supersofts, which could mean he had a little more fuel in, or maybe the track is just slower than at the last test, or a mix of the two.
Either way considering the times others have done the Williams looks impressively fast and reliable. My gut feeling is Mercedes seem faster and had their speed testing done last test and it hasn't been the primary focus, maybe the same for Mclaren. Though the Mclaren maybe does look like it lacks a bit of pace in the third test.
Hard to compare with different drivers also. These cars should be harder to drive and I think that works against Button really, love him or hate(or like me, don't think much either way) him most agree he works better with a smoother/better car. I can see him losing time simply not being aggressive enough and riding on the brink or wheel spin. So is the Mclaren a bit slower or maybe just slower drivers? Massa when he wants to be fast and maybe feels like he can actually win(without being told to let someone pass) can show great pace.
We pretty much know Nico and Hamilton can show pace whenever they want to.
Either way considering the times others have done the Williams looks impressively fast and reliable. My gut feeling is Mercedes seem faster and had their speed testing done last test and it hasn't been the primary focus, maybe the same for Mclaren. Though the Mclaren maybe does look like it lacks a bit of pace in the third test.
Hard to compare with different drivers also. These cars should be harder to drive and I think that works against Button really, love him or hate(or like me, don't think much either way) him most agree he works better with a smoother/better car. I can see him losing time simply not being aggressive enough and riding on the brink or wheel spin. So is the Mclaren a bit slower or maybe just slower drivers? Massa when he wants to be fast and maybe feels like he can actually win(without being told to let someone pass) can show great pace.
We pretty much know Nico and Hamilton can show pace whenever they want to.
