FA Charge NINE players!

good i thought arsenal were a disgrace, fair enough ruud did get viera sent off when there was no contact, but there was no need for the type of reaction keown showed! Think ruud actually did well to keep his cool after all that happened as well
 
Originally posted by Gooner14
Yes but he would already be off the field by then.

Yes G.Neville was alleged to have thrown a punch.
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He was at the side argueing with the fourth official and they had to take him away. Also he started chargin through a load of players to kick off on someone again, still havn't heard who it was or why.

Fourth officials are dead strict. 2 managers at least have already got sent off this season for doin close to nowt.
 
Sadly Arsenal will have such good lawyers that they will probably be able to avoid the charges to some extent. Firstly, they will fix it so not all the players are banned at the same time. Secondly, they will probably get away with tiny little fines (tbh, each player should be fined at least £100,000 or it really does not act as a deterrent at all) and they will probably not be banned fro as long as they should be. The ones who are being charged for violent conduct should be banned for a long stretch (10 or so games incl. all competitions) because brawling like that gives the game a bad image and is just a very bad thing for people to watch.

RvN is not being charged because he didn't do anything! He acted the most mature out of the whole lot - he just walked off the pitch, away from it all.
 
Originally posted by jailbird
should be banned for a long stretch (10 or so games incl. all competitions) because brawling like that gives the game a bad image
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Oh do me a favour. Nobody got hurt, no punches were thrown - you see far worse and either nothing gets done or max 5 game bans are handed out. More serious offenders such as Lauren, ok, maybe a 3 match ban or so would be in order. People like Keane have gone around kicking Haaland, pushing Shearer in the face (after already whacking him on the head with the ball, swearing etc), and he was banned for less than 10 matches for both of those.

I didn't like to see Lehmann shoving the linesman around during the match, so he deserves a ban along with Lauren, and possibly Keown. Vieira should just shut up and accept his 1 match ban for the 2 yellows, rather than talking about getting it recinded.

I think if you ask most Arsenal fans, they will agree that the behaviour was out of order. It's just the double standards that they find annoying, with RvN getting off scotfree for the punch in 2002, Bergkamp getting charged for fouls the referee saw and didn't give anything while players from other teams don't get charged because the ref saw it (e.g. Djemba-Djemba in charity shield). Yes, Arsenal deserve to be punished, but why aren't other teams treated the same?

At the end of the day, what happened on Sunday wasn't much worse than we have seen after some other, lower profile matches, e.g. West Ham vs Bolton(?) at the end of last season. Keown's "elbow in the back" on RvN was no worse than the treatment given out by RvN in the first half of the FA cup game last year.
 
jailbird: while i agree keown should get a ban of SOME sorts (2-3 matches) 10 matches would be stupid, thats over 1/4 of the season, over the top for players like parlour lauren etc who were just pushing

and if there wasnt any incidents like this, what would we be able to argue about down the pub?
 
This is how I see it: quotes from fa.com

Arsenal have been charged with misconduct for failing to ensure the proper behaviour of their players. This constitutes a breach of FA Rule E21(a).

Why have the club been charged if the players have? Charge one or the other, not both.

The FA has written to Arsenal manager Arsene Wengerseeking his explanantions for comments regarding Ruud van Nistelrooy made after the match with Manchester United at Old Trafford on Sunday, 21st September.

Have they listened to what he said? Will people now understand why Wenger always said he never saw it?

Ashley Cole has been charged with improper conduct (breach of FA Rule E1) for his involvement in a confrontation with Manchester United player Cristiano Ronaldo after the final whistle

Certain, handbags, A warning such as Neville? I would have thought so.

Martin Keown has been charged with improper conduct (E1) for confronting Manchester United player Ruud van Nistelrooy following the penalty miss, and with violent behaviour (breach of Rule E2) for striking van Nistelrooy on the back of the head following the final whistle

Anyone remember Robbie Savage after Brevetts own goal last year? Where was his charge? Same thing. The strike, not sure Keown meant to hit him, but I can't/won't argue that.

Lauren has been charged with two counts of improper conduct (E1), for confronting van Nistelrooy after Patrick Vieira's sending-off, and for confronting Manchester United player Ryan Giggs after the final whistle. He has also been charged with two counts of violent behaviour (E2), for kicking out at Manchester United player Quinton Fortune following the penalty award, and for forcibly pushing van Nistelrooy in the back following the final whistle

Haven't seen the kick. The push, yep gulity.

Jens Lehmann has been charged with improper conduct (E1) for confronting referee Steve Bennett after Patrick Vieira's second yellow card and for then persistently seeking to confront van Nistelrooy

How many other players tell the ref what they think! Most.

Ray Parlour has been charged with improper conduct (E1) for confronting van Nistelrooy after the final whistle, and with violent behaviour (E2) for grabbing at Manchester United player Gary Neville from behind shortly afterwards

Strange they saw this, but not the thrown punch!

Patrick Vieira has been charged with improper conduct (E1) for failing to leave the field of play following his sending-off, and for instead seeking to confront van Nistelrooy and engaging in a verbal exchange with Fourth Official Neale Barry

Harsh. Will his first yellow be rescinded? Should be, if they will use video evidence to prove gulit, why not innocence?

Ryan Giggs has been charged with improper conduct (E1) for his involvement in a confrontation with Lauren after the match had ended
Cristiano Ronaldo has been charged with improper conduct (E1) for confronting Martin Keown at the conclusion of the match

Strange, thought it should be Gary Neville and Fortune.

Anyway it should make for an interesting atomsphere on Friday. Anti FA and Sky songs. And several ex players will get it, no names (Alan Smith, Kenny Samson, Frank Stapleton)
 
Funny how the man utd fans are wondering why the man utd players are being charged , maybe they haven't seen the footage on skysports when they show ronaldo and giggs pushing our players? Probably didn't deserve a charge but they did do something wrong.

Why is G.neville not charged for his punch and why is Fortune not charged? Maybe Neville wasn't charged so he won't miss the Turkey game?

why is paddy charged as well? He will only probably get a fine though........

Other than that it sounds fair enough.

They want wenger to explain his comments, I wonder how many videos of DvN diving he will take along :p (a joke btw)

Keown to get 10 match suspension LMAO. How many matches was keane banned for trying to break someones leg? 6 was it? Now it will be funny hearing jailbird explain how keown jumping up and boasting infront of DvN is worse than that........
 
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Keane was banned for 8 games for that foul, IIRC.

Agree with all the Arsenal ones, the players chosen from the United team seem a little odd, but we were never going to get away with no players charged.
 
Originally posted by andi
Nice to see Keown being charged twice, hope they castrate the ****.
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whysat? coz your players arent man enough to handle him?!

we deserved the charges as we didnt act properly and thats fair enough...cant believe RvN, Neville and Forture werent charged tho...what a joke.
 
Originally posted by MrM3
Why can't the girls that play football act more like the men that play rugby and shake hands at the end.
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it will never happen, the majority of footballers are utter wimps, particularly in comparison to rugby players...

so funny when you see a player rolling around the floor after a clip to the ankles...then you watch a rugby match and watch a player get thrown to the ground and stamped on...and he gets straight back up ;)
 
Originally posted by PAz
whysat? coz your players arent man enough to handle him?!

we deserved the charges as we didnt act properly and thats fair enough...cant believe RvN, Neville and Forture werent charged tho...what a joke.
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Because he's an ugly **** who cant play football to save his life, and resorts to being a thug, and not a particularly good one at that, shame Keano's not his old self, would have been nice to see him smash Keown's face in, might be an improvement.
 
Originally posted by Gooner14
Jens Lehmann has been charged with improper conduct (E1) for confronting referee Steve Bennett after Patrick Vieira's second yellow card and for then persistently seeking to confront van Nistelrooy

How many other players tell the ref what they think! Most.
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You are missing the point for this one, he was shacking the assitant ref & pushing him around, not just having a word.

Have now seen the Giggs & Ronaldo pushes & tbh is just a bit of handbags but fair enough for a charge, still not seen anything of a neville punch & saw nothing which made me think RVN should get charged.

Also, footballers aren't actually girls, they may drop at the slighest touch but that is to get an advantage in the game, they always run back on, play with bleeding heads run off being stamped on etc. It is just the speed they drop which makes em look bad.
 
Originally posted by andi
Because he's an ugly **** who cant play football to save his life, and resorts to being a thug, and not a particularly good one at that, shame Keano's not his old self, would have been nice to see him smash Keown's face in, might be an improvement.
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lol, keane wouldnt stand a chance. the guy is just a wannabe hardman.

and imo keown was one of the best central defenders in the league, was certainly the quickest in his peak. never seen him going down like a sissey or anything either. sure, hes too old now, but he can still pull his weight about and do the job if asked of him!
 
Originally posted by Cemetery
You are missing the point for this one, he was shacking the assitant ref & pushing him around, not just having a word.
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But that's not what he's been charged with.

And as for rugby players! As much as I like rugby, these are the same players who stamp, gouch, and punch each other.
 
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