Fabia vRS

Vinnylupo said:
Granted maybe not that one, but they can be picked up cheaper.
Click to expand...

£7000 for a 4 year old Fabia is retarded.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1512585.htm
Far cheaper and better in every single way aside from mpg and road tax, but then it is significantly cheaper in the first place!

Theres nothing wrong with a Skoda, makes you different to the people who say '...well I've got a Golf' yet it is the same udnerneath.
 
these things with a "tuning box" get down a quarter mile as fast as one of those original vr6 golfs, to put the "fast" into perspective
 
Matt82 said:
these things with a "tuning box" get down a quarter mile as fast as one of those original vr6 golfs, to put the "fast" into perspective
Click to expand...

Some tuning boxes use a generic map if i recall correctly, but with a custom map from say, Awesome GTI, they would get good gains.

mglover070588 said:
*waves*

That is me saying goodbye to the turbo and clutch:p
Click to expand...

Lol i agree, if i were to get it remapped then i would look into getting an uprated clutch.
 
mglover070588 said:
£7000 for a 4 year old Fabia is retarded.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1512585.htm
Far cheaper and better in every single way aside from mpg and road tax, but then it is significantly cheaper in the first place!
Click to expand...

I'd love an Octavia vRS but again the insurance at the moment isn't going to be ideal.

Theres nothing wrong with a Skoda, makes you different to the people who say '...well I've got a Golf' yet it is the same udnerneath.
Click to expand...

I completely agree.
 
[TW]Fox;16016665 said:
You realise all this massive torque is only developed at the flywheel, right? You've got to get it to the wheels before it does anything, and a diesel doesn't rev anywhere near as high as a petrol car so the true torque @ wheels between them both is similar?
Click to expand...

something doesnt seem right about that comment to me? Maximum torque figures are normally compared, at their respective RPM, so how does an engine rpm matter? One engine revving higher than other is irrlevant, as we're comparing MAX torque. You arent even talking about multiplying to get power, as you used torque throughout?

And if you're saying its generated at the flywheel, then thats really where the differences between diesels and petrols end, and the only place rpm is generated. Gear ratios aside there arent too many differences in terms of route for the power to get to the wheels between the two? Transmission losses will be bnigh on the same...

Or am i missing something?
 
I'm talking about how it translates to actual performance on the road. People seem to have this misunderstanding that a high torque figure = more performance.

If thats the case why is a Civic Type-R with 200nm of torque faster than my parents 530d with 410nm of torque?

Why isn't a BMW 335d quicker than a Formula 1 car which has less torque?
 
A car with the same BHP say a petrol and a turbo diesel, the diesel with more torque will be quicker, how can you compare totally different cars?

A Type R is a hot hatch and well a 530d is a heavy motorway car,


Pointless having a debate if you are comparing totally different cars is it not?
 
Settleddown said:
A car with the same BHP say a petrol and a turbo diesel, the diesel with more torque will be quicker, how can you compare totally different cars?
Click to expand...

It's just an example, the first figures which came to the top of my head.

Generally speaking the petrol car thats roughly equivilent to the diesel will have more power - as it revs higher.

A Type R is a hot hatch and well a 530d is a heavy motorway car,
Click to expand...

:rolleyes:

It has twice the torque but it isnt twice the weight.
 
I've had the 130 pd in an Ibiza FR, fairly rapid but not really quick quick. Best i got to 62mph over 10 runs was about 7.5 seconds. Speed via gps and timed via pc/video replay whilst on a mates dad private land with a nice long paved drive. Allowing for errors its more like 7.6-7.8 secs but not 9 secs as parkers quote it. Tds are ok and have their uses plus have come a long way, but for all out performance i'd get a petrol.
 
I can’t see a 193 take it its a touring? That’s the only d I can find with that power.

Anyway I’m only saying you need to compare like for like, I think everybody who has a sense of anything to do with engines knows torque is a meaningless number on its own, a diesel always produces silly torque figures, I reckon the majority of times a car with the same power and weight between a diesel and petrol the diesel will come out on top due to higher torque figures, well I think???
 
Settleddown said:
I can’t see a 193 take it its a touring? That’s the only d I can find with that power.

Anyway I’m only saying you need to compare like for like, I think everybody who has a sense of anything to do with engines knows torque is a meaningless number on its own, a diesel always produces silly torque figures, I reckon the majority of times a car with the same power and weight between a diesel and petrol the diesel will come out on top due to higher torque figures, well I think???
Click to expand...

Torque gives that feeling of rapidness, its an illusion. I'm not straight out dissing Diesels, i drive a 320D (06, older 163bhp engine) remapped to 197bhp and quite like it but i really would prefer and probably will get a 330i when i don't do almost 30k a year anymore. :)
 
Settleddown said:
I can’t see a 193 take it its a touring? That’s the only d I can find with that power.

Anyway I’m only saying you need to compare like for like, I think everybody who has a sense of anything to do with engines knows torque is a meaningless number on its own, a diesel always produces silly torque figures, I reckon the majority of times a car with the same power and weight between a diesel and petrol the diesel will come out on top due to higher torque figures, well I think???
Click to expand...

Still no because it's about the power band. Take an extreme example but if the diesel only makes that torque between 2k and 3.5k rpm that's 1.5 rpm to play with, but petrols will nearly always produce their torque and thus power between a much larger band often more than double.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom