Facebook Secret Messaging

To those who think the government are "reading" your e-mails.
74,000,000,000,000 e-mails where sent in 2015
To read every single e-mail you would need to read:
2,346,524 per second every second for 365 days of the year.
Take your tin foil hats off.
We need servers to scan e-mails in real time for key words related to things such as paedophiles and terrorism. The world wasn't and still isn't ready for the internet age, we had millenia to develop social interaction and law.. We have had all of a few decades with internet.

Something like this then?

Yahoo Inc last year secretly built a custom software program to search all of its customers' incoming emails for specific information provided by U.S. intelligence officials, according to people familiar with the matter.

The company complied with a classified U.S. government demand, scanning hundreds of millions of Yahoo Mail accounts at the behest of the National Security Agency or FBI, said three former employees and a fourth person apprised of the events.

Yeah, I'm sure it's being used for "anti-terrorism", along with anything from corporate espionage to anything else the US government want.

The above is one of the primary reasons companies are removing themselves form the chain and providing a platform that they themselves cannot read or access. Most companies like these are American based international companies, and it's not very good for them to be seen to be at the beck and call of the US government. It's not going to help you get customers in Russia for example (or many other countries for that matter.

So as much as it's about privacy its also about deniability and business. There are only so many times a warrant canary can be removed/die before people start avoiding your company.

Edit: seems I'm a ginger step child. In my defence this was supposed to be posted 2 hours ago. :p
 
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Something like this then?



Yeah, I'm sure it's being used for "anti-terrorism", along with anything from corporate espionage to anything else the US government want.

The above is one of the primary reasons companies are removing themselves form the chain and providing a platform that they themselves cannot read or access. Most companies like these are American based international companies, and it's not very good for them to be seen to be at the beck and call of the US government. It's not going to help you get customers in Russia for example (or many other countries for that matter.

So as much as it's about privacy its also about deniability and business. There are only so many times a warrant canary can be removed/die before people start avoiding your company.

Edit: seems I'm a ginger step child. In my defence this was supposed to be posted 2 hours ago. :p


My major point is.. The issue with Big Data is purely one of volume.. They may be able to intercept millions of e-mails with key-words that are relevant.. a human being cannot read them, they are interpreted by a computer and then usefull data is produced to generate further income.
 
It doesn't really matter who/what reads them, it's that they are read and analyses in some form.
 
Yeah lol. It's like hell freezing over. These "secret" messages will simply be given a higher priority for guaranteed scrutiny.

but your spouse probbably wont have security clearance, so good enough for most peoples FB use.
 
The internet is not real life.. Social dynamics have evolved along-side our biology for tens of thousands of years..

Social networking and the internet is decades old.. We don't know the correct way to approach security or freedom's yet.

It's not real life? :confused:
 
Reminds me of people at work. Some who refuse to sign into Skype for business or request it to be uninstalled as they don't want "big brother" "knowing" what they're doing.

I've always argued well if they're working, then what is the actual issue? And secondly, why assume that IT can automatically see 100% of what you're doing just because you're signed into S4B?

And thirdly, what makes them think we just sit there somehow invisibly monitoring everything they're doing all day?
 
Not really, i study cyber security and forensics at university.

If this is the sort of rubbish they are teaching you, then you need to ask for your tuition fees back:

People worry about identity theft primarily.. If they use authentication protocols on many web services whilst changing their passwords every 6-12 months they won't have anything to worry about..

There have been countless incidents of mass data extracts been stolen by hackers, that had nothing to do with 'using authentication protocols'. Target lost something like 40 million sets of credit cards details, potentially causing billions in fraudulent transactions. Can you imagine what would happen if some of the 'big data' you think isn't a problem fell into the hands of a hacker?

That's to say nothing of the privacy implications of a government being able to search this data at will to zero-in on a particular person, which is entirely possible.
 
Whatsapp been doing it for ages.

More importantly, have they just admitted what we always knew? Old messenger was able to be therefore likely was being monitored by FB.

Facebook own Whatsapp so I guess they're just consolidating things :).
 
Target lost something like 40 million sets of credit cards details, potentially causing billions in fraudulent transactions.

Mastercard have stated there has been precisely zero fraudulent transactions attributed to that breach.
 
Links such as that in the OP should be moderated. That would be an actual good use of moderation time compared to the norm.

Not willing to click.
I'll just listen and believe the bloke that studies at uni and knows his **** therefore :)

It's obfuscated by definition, regardless of the reason.

The biggest mistake you are making is replying to it! I advise you ignore :)
 
Read John Suller's papers on the online disinhibition effect.

I get that people behave differently, but for people to refer to it as not being real life just contributes towards that problem. It's still real life, just the dynamics are a bit different with a lot of people.
 
Mastercard have stated there has been precisely zero fraudulent transactions attributed to that breach.

That's why I said 'potentially'. Blocks of card details were going on Ukrainian hacker sites for thousands shortly after the breech. Also, they can't possibly know that for sure, but the card companies between them spent something like $300 million issuing new cards which was bad enough in and of itself.
 
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