Fallout 3 Prepare for the Future

Arpegius · 15 Jul 2008 at 14:53

I think this is going to be immense. Really loved Fallout tactics and watching the videos, although it seems to be moving away from what it started out as, I reckon that it will work out for them. Looks a bit like they've had a look at Mass Effect and the FPS/RPG system there and built on that.

Hellsmk2 · 15 Jul 2008 at 18:54

Having now watched those videos, I'm very dissapointed.

Having the option to autoaim at different parts of the body does not "give it that fallout feel" at all; mainly because it's more like a bloody FPS than anything else.

It may be a great game, but did they have to drag one of the greatest franchises ever into it? This is not GTA, where 2d to 3d was a natural progression.

Sem · 15 Jul 2008 at 19:10

sigh game uses the same gamebyro engine that was used in oblivion

dont expect to be able to play it at high settings till around a year after release

Huddy · 15 Jul 2008 at 19:54

I think the setting and story seem cracking. Not sure about the gameplay.

Still worth keeping an eye on.

psychas · 16 Jul 2008 at 08:43

Hellsmk2 said:
Having now watched those videos, I'm very dissapointed.

Having the option to autoaim at different parts of the body does not "give it that fallout feel" at all; mainly because it's more like a bloody FPS than anything else.

It may be a great game, but did they have to drag one of the greatest franchises ever into it? This is not GTA, where 2d to 3d was a natural progression.

what u on about in fallout 1/2 you were able to aim in diferent body parts to

edit new video : http://www.gamespot.com/video/0/6194162/videoplayerpop?rgroup=e32008_live

20 min

Hamoodii · 16 Jul 2008 at 11:23

psychas said:
what u on about in fallout 1/2 you were able to aim in diferent body parts to

edit new video : http://www.gamespot.com/video/0/6194162/videoplayerpop?rgroup=e32008_live

20 min

Cheers for the link mate

The Dread Pirate · 16 Jul 2008 at 11:31

Ahh my fellow glittering gems of hatred. To put it bluntly ever since bethesda confirmed their ownership of the franchise I've been sayin' t'is gonna be Complete **** compared with the awesomeness of 1 & 2. TBH we should boycott the game until bethesda get their act together and make a proper RPG!

psychas · 16 Jul 2008 at 11:33

Capn' $qu!ff said:
Ahh my fellow glittering gems of hatred. To put it bluntly ever since bethesda confirmed their ownership of the franchise I've been sayin' t'is gonna be Complete **** compared with the awesomeness of 1 & 2. TBH we should boycott the game until bethesda get their act together!

well if check out this http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/fallou...a-20080714133932662026/g-20070327151320531089

that might convince you diferently, as the demos Tod was showing just mobat no story mission/quests and ect just check the link above

The Dread Pirate · 16 Jul 2008 at 11:42

psychas said:
well if check out this http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/fallou...a-20080714133932662026/g-20070327151320531089

that might convince you diferently, as the demos Tod was showing just mobat no story mission/quests and ect just check the link above

Dude it's not the story missions/quests I have a problem with their most likly gonna be awesome however it's the ****ty oblivion gameplay thats bothering me

Tefal · 16 Jul 2008 at 12:00

Capn' $qu!ff said:
Dude it's not the story missions/quests I have a problem with their most likly gonna be awesome

Really? I'm more worried about it being a very crappy story with massively limited dialog and more just as it goes "oblivion with guns"

Hellsmk2 · 16 Jul 2008 at 12:41

psychas said:
what u on about in fallout 1/2 you were able to aim in diferent body parts to

edit new video : http://www.gamespot.com/video/0/6194162/videoplayerpop?rgroup=e32008_live

20 min

I know that; by including it in F3, it does not suddenly make it feel like it is part of the Fallout universe.

Glaucus · 16 Jul 2008 at 12:44

Hellsmk2 said:
I know that; by including it in F3, it does not suddenly make it feel like it is part of the Fallout universe.

The new one certainly looks and feels like Fallout to me. But we haven't seen much of the dialogue yet. Or if they have the travel screen.

psychas · 16 Jul 2008 at 13:41

well i was masive fan of fallout 2 and 1 there is loads of changes what i dont like no invetory etc only 20 lvls i think bit messed up perks and skills, hopefully they fix them up a bit,
but hey its f3 . and i will end it up buying and playing it.

Tefal · 16 Jul 2008 at 13:47

psychas said:
well i was masive fan of fallout 2 and 1 there is loads of changes what i dont like no invetory etc only 20 lvls i think bit messed up perks and skills, hopefully they fix them up a bit,
but hey its f3 . and i will end it up buying and playing it.

there where only 25 in fallout 1...

psychas · 16 Jul 2008 at 13:52

99 in falout 2 but till patch 1.1 atleast. anyway new interview i think

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36161.html?type=

and some people playing in a backround

EvilDreams · 18 Jul 2008 at 18:09

Weebull said:
I mean, it's obviously using the Oblivion engine

If that's the case, I'm staying well away from it.

Surfer · 2 Aug 2008 at 11:27

10 page preview in PCZ this month.

they were pretty impressed by it.

changes what i dont like no inventory etc

? thats strange no inventory? are you sure? in the preview i read Porter spent a lot of time wandering around collecting garbage and bits n pieces and bartering with folk etc.

no loading zones edit: sod it its good ole Oblivion loading zones :/ (Towns and Buildings are zoned like in Oblivion (load times between each, etc). )

V.A.T.S. combat system is apparently very very good
quests much more in-depth than Oblivion
More Dialogue heavy (better voices than Oblivion which wouldnt be hard)
one quest reward is a house which you can decorate,furnish etc and you get a robot butler with it!

You can also cannabalise parts from different weapons to help you repair them.

Tefal · 2 Aug 2008 at 11:33

Surfer said:
10 page preview in PCZ this month.

they were pretty impressed by it.

? thats strange no inventory? are you sure? in the preview i read Porter spent a lot of time wandering around collecting garbage and bits n pieces and bartering with folk etc.

no loading zones
V.A.T.S. combat system is apparently very very good
quests much more in-depth than Oblivion
More Dialogue heavy (better voices than Oblivion which wouldnt be hard)
one quest reward is a house which you can decorate,furnish etc and you get a robot butler with it!

You can also cannabalise parts from different weapons to help you repair them.

Read

http://www.nma-fallout.com/article.php?id=43893

Does the AI suck as much as it appears in the gameplay videos?
Yes, unfortunately, it’s one of the main faults of the full version of Fallout 3. The mobs are totally stupid, with NPCs that flee in the direction of their aggressors, enemies that find themselves running on the spot, blocked by a too-low platform ( enabling me to re-arrange their faces during combat), rats that charge you so close as to bump into you then jumping up and down in a vain attempt to cause you harm. It is the one point that Bethesda should be taken to task over.

And even mroe crap that should have been solved in the 90's

Surfer · 2 Aug 2008 at 11:54

hopefully things like AI are still being tweaked then...

but curiously the guy in that report (from nma-fallout) said

Are the weapons customizable, are there different ammo types (I’m dreaming I know)

Click to expand...

From what I saw, no. The weapons are limited to a list, it does not seem possible to combine them with other inventory items. I did not find any different ammo types during my playthrough.

i'll just quote a bit from the preview in PCZ

What i certainly didnt have was many decent armaments apart from a purloined sniper rifle with no ammo, a crap hunting rifle, a dodgy Chinese pistol, and a machine-gun that was gradually breaking down, becoming increasingly ineffective. At this point i didnt know i could cannabilise parts from weapons i picked up and use my repairs skills to fix my guns

what would be the point of cannabilising parts from weapons if you couldnt combine them with other weapons?

apart from the AI. The only other things which are dissapointing me slightly are zero weather variations and possibly the landscapes might just be too boring (in their attempt to provide atmosphere of a post-apocalyptic world ie a empty wrecked landscape)

edit: also i'm not going to be too chuffed if it is a barren landscape littered with lots of "oblivion-like" repetitive dungeons.

Tefal · 2 Aug 2008 at 12:04

because it's just a more complicated version of the "repair skill" ie you can take broken gun a take part from identical broken gun B and replace it in gun A, not take scope from sniper rifle and stick it on a pistol.