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FAO: Gibbo-QX6850 Due When?

For me I need the very best as I use it for my main trading PC and in a few seconds I can make several times the cost of the CPU so money is no object in my scenario. Its far cheaper to get a QX6850 than buy a dual Xeon setup as you need a different mobo, PSU, Ram etc etc.

Even if I did not need it for trading I would still not hesitate to pay for the best as overclocking a quad requires an exotic cooling solution unless you wish to run a high risk of damaging the CPU.

If you already have an exotic cooling solution then obviously its a no brainer but a lot of people like me do not have the time to set one up so QXs cater for us nicely.
 
Well tbh i was hoping for a hi jd welcome to overclockers but instead i just get told i know nothing of overclocking and i wasted my money.Thanks for the warm welcome.Id aslo add if no one bought high end parts then there would not be any and id be still on my zx81 or Atari ste.As hobbies go computers arent that expensive IMO im a audiophile and the money you can spend on that hobbie far out ways what Ive spent on my pc over the years.At the end of the day its my money and im happy with what Ive bought.Do you guys run into the road when you see a Ferrari shouting hey your crazy should have bought a skoda and slapped a turbo on it.I thought that this was a place guys bought and talked high end pc parts and hoped it would be friendly and helpful but looks like i made a mistake as my first day here i spend defending what Ive bought and my reasons for buying it.
 
Johny chill out man. Geez us old geezers can get cranky sometimes :)

I think to be fair to everyone you were a bit inflamatory with your "If your a school boy on pocket money" quip.

To be honest, if you want somewhere where people just pat each other on the back for purchasing expensive kit, this probably isn't the place. The discussions on here are pretty frank and open, and this is more like an enthusiasts technical forum where people know that they can do a mild overclock on a cheaper model and get the equivalent of a top end chip whilst saving £100's

Most of us know we risk frying a CPU but we also know that the chances of it are very tiny, in fact I don't think I've seen many "I fried my CPU" threads since the original Athlon days. :)

The Ferrari analogy isn't very fair either, its more akin to buying a BMW M3 and finding out that just by fiddling with the Satnav a bit you can get a M3 CSL.

I understand your stance, nothing wrong with it, but dont get discouraged by the frank and open opinions that go with the territory of being on a big forum. And try not to slip inflamatory remarks in about the size of your or the lack of anyone elses wallet :)
 
Ok johny dolan anything that is said below is going to be in a light hearted. very friendly manner, it may not appear like that but it is lol. (hence all the smilies) :D

Right you told us to do our research when you havent really done yours.

Take for instance your GTX SLI, on a 22inch screen that is actually a complete waste of money. If you had two machines setup, exactly the same specs apart from one system had a single GTX on and the other was setup as a SLI GTX configuration, you wouldn't notice the difference at all i bet.

Also you have such a good system and you only have 2GB of Memory (if thats correct?). I can understand if you don't want to move to Vista yet but surely the smart thing to do would be to get 4GB of Memory along with Vista and Dual Boot. That way you can experience Vista fully but if you do run into some problems, no worries just boot into XP. ;)

You also have a Enemerax 1000 wattage PSU which isnt needed, if you had research you would have more than likely found that out.

I can understand the Intel Core 2 Quad Extreme Edition QX6850 (just about) if your not overclocking and you earn a decent wage and money isnt a problem. Since theirs a chance you would warrant from it.

Other things like your two GTXes i cant, since you play on a 22inch screen, like i said before you wouldn't notice the diffrence.

Theirs a point in the computing world were, spending over a certain amount of money wont actually real any advantages. Which i think you have most likely done.

Well thats my view lol. :eek: :)
 
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I have 2 gig or ram because i use 32 bit vista.i like to run my games with full eye candy x16af and x16q aa some of the game i run are supreme commander, oblivion, fsx, company of heroes and lost planet.I only recently added another card so im aware of the difference the extra card makes and its worth the outlay imo.Some of these games are very tough to run and will soak up all the pc you have.I run fsx maxed and that does 25 to 35 fps also supcom can be brought to its knees with large maps and 1000s of units.This is from the supcom benchmark FPS ......................................: calls[ 15372] min[ 5.97] max[ 96.85] avg[ 45.832] So you see i only just have enough pc to run the games i want the way i want to run them.Why is it every time i come here i have to justify my pc to everyone.Must say you all made me feel as welcome as a fart in a space suit.
 
You don't have to justify how you spend your money to anyone, but equally people are not likely to just say 'wow, cool PC' around here.

It is good that you can just drop as much cash as you need on your PC and good luck to you for that, but the very heart of over-clocking is getting something for nothing so you shouldn't be too surprised if you find people commenting on aspects of your rig which show more 'spend' that many would have found worthwhile.

People come here to get and give help on getting the most out of what they have to spend rather than just showing off what they have spent.

You probably don't intend to come across like that and if you choose to hang around and get used to things here I'm sure you'll feel more welcome in time.
 
You didnt make a good first impression i guess. You have an attitude which wont get you far here.

I think this is a easy topic to answer. If money is no object, get the QX6850. You can get the same performance from a Q6600 if you overclock it to 3GHZ, however, the warranty will be void and the chip wont see a very long life (long enough though with all the technology changes). The QX6850 also has a unlocked mutliplier.

I regret buying the X6800 when it came out last July for £900, but its still going strong sitting at 3.5.
 
I dont expect guys to say wow cool pc.A hi welcome to the forum would have been nice but not necessary but what i didnt expect is the constant attacks of my pc.So i choose to leave.
 
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and the chip wont see a very long life (long enough though with all the technology changes). The QX6850 also has a unlocked mutliplier.

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I don't get why people keep saying this. a Q6600 that'll do QX6850 speeds at the same vcore will last just as long on average as a QX6850, theres nothing different. It takes a fair amount of voltage to actually bring the life expectancy down drastically and i'd estimate 99.9% of overclocked chips will last just as long as non overvolted/overclocked ones. The ones that do suffer are usually those massively overvolted ones and ones not cooled properly. Point is moot anyhow as by the time these chips are ready to die they'll probably be in a dump heap or already long turned to dust by then. Also a Q6600 @ QX6850 speeds will have more performance as you raise the FSB/memory speed etc..
 
Well sorry to see you leave before you even got wet, I never even noticed that you were new to the forums because I don't look at post counts, they mean jack to me. :)

Guess you'll find that any forum like this you are gonna get strong opinions on this sort of subject and TBH if you can't defend your corner, or basically say you are not interested in the discussion, I wonder how you get on in life. If you start a new job etc. and not everyone say hi and makes you welcome do you quit?

Hang in for a few more posts on different subjects or just read some of the more colourful threads and you'll understand everyone gets a bit hot headed from time to time.
 
johny dolan said:
I dont expect guys to say wow cool pc.A hi welcome to the forum would have been nice but not necessary but what i didnt expect is the constant attacks of my pc.So i choose to leave.
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No ones attacked you, just stated facts. You did come off as a touch arrogant and maybe i was a little too harsh on you. However if you choose to leave its your choice but i think if you stick around you'll get accustomed to the way the forums are.
 
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No ones attacked you, just stating facts. You did come off as a touch arrogant and maybe i was a little too harsh on you. However if you choose to leave its your choice but i think if you stick around you'll get accustomed to the way the forums are.
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Yep we are mean, killing machines. :eek:
 
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johny dolan said:
I dont expect guys to say wow cool pc.A hi welcome to the forum would have been nice but not necessary but what i didnt expect is the constant attacks of my pc.So i choose to leave.
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Hi johny, and a belated welcome to the forums :)

This is an overclockers forum, so a lot of the discussion here is based on how much we can get out of our hardware. You have every right to buy top-end hardware and leave it at stock speeds, but since that goes against everything that overclockers believe in, you should expect people here to try and convert you to their way of thinking.
 
johny dolan said:
I thought that this was a place guys bought and talked high end pc parts and hoped it would be friendly and helpful but looks like i made a mistake as my first day here i spend defending what Ive bought and my reasons for buying it.
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Hang on a sec...

I'm not having a go at your for spending £800 on a processor per se, if you have the disposable cash and that's what you want to do with it then that's fair enough and good on you. As you say, if you've got to the point in your life where, due to working hard, you've taken care of all your financial responsibilities and have some spare cash to indulge yourself with then that's great. My parents are in much the same situation and my father loves buying himself gadgets. (Note that this is in stark contrast to many younger people on here who have an income but still live at home with mummy and have zero outgoings, blowing all their cash on computer hardware and then waving their willies around on here - yeah I'm really impressed with your disposable cash, come back when you have a mortgage & bills to pay ;) :D )

The point I was making was that I find it a rather odd time to be splashing out on such a processor when the top-of-the-range is about to be redefined by Penryn. If you want the top-flight hardware, surely it'd be better to wait a couple of months for Penryn and then see what's what? I know there's always something better coming along but Penryn represents a significant step forward rather than a small increment and so would seem worth waiting for, much as with the new model car analogy I posted earlier. Manufacturers are always tweaking the specifications of their cars and might add some new standard features every month or two but, every now and then, a totally new model or major revamp comes along and it'd be madness to buy shortly before this happens, unless you're getting a major discount of course.
 
Well, from me, welcome! Don't mind the heat here in the CPU kitchen, it's cooler elsewhere in the house! :) (and its cooler after hours, when the cooks have left! :p )
 
Hi there

It amazes me why some people get so concerned about how other people are spending their money?

Some people want the absolute best performance without overclocking, yet others want the best possible yield CPU for overclocking.

The good news for those who are interested in the QX6850's we now have 100+ in stock and they are proving very popular, quite surprising really when you consider the price. :)
 
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Hi there

It amazes me why some people get so concerned about how other people are spending their money?

Some people want the absolute best performance without overclocking, yet others want the best possible yield CPU for overclocking.
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You would say that though Gibbo - seeing as you sell the stuff! ;) :D

I'd readily admit that there is a certain sense of e-jealousy - I know I'd like to be able to spend £700 odd on a shiny new CPU, but I think the people on this thread are talking sense. These are forums heavily represented by overclockers, and as such it is entirely reasonable to question somebodies logic in spending more than they needed to, when they could get the same performance for half the cost.

Just my opinion of course though. :)
 
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johny dolan said:
I dont expect guys to say wow cool pc.A hi welcome to the forum would have been nice but not necessary but what i didnt expect is the constant attacks of my pc.So i choose to leave.
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Hello mate. I love to talk high end parts! Thats a great rig youve got. Youll find in here, people seem to get all hung up when someone buys an Extreme, or in their minds 'wastes' money on high end bits. Well, IMO, there's nothing better than £600-£700 processor arriving and then ramping it up knowing you could blow it up! :) Thats a proper overcloking enthuiast. Yeah, fair play to the geeza's who buy a 4300 and clock it to to 3.5ghz, but you can beat the buzz of clocking and Extreme to 4ghz (plus youve got more chance with an Extreme) !

I know where youre coming from, others will just resent you for your rig. Thats life. But, these forums are pretty cool, just dont take it too personally. I get slated quite often by certain people when money or high end parts get mentioned too...as do others.

EDIt: - I've had an QX6700, X6800, E6600, FX55 and FX57. I've also had a x4800 when they came out and a 3.6ghz P4, and a P3 1200 when they came out aswell ! And when the San Diego 3800+3700 came out, I bought one of each on release day! :) I have a processor compulsion, and its an expensive habit!!
 
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