Far right terror is the "fastest growing" threat to the UK

[VincentHanna]

Just happened to switch over to Sky News and there was a report where the sky reporter has been with the west midlands anti-terror police force, they stated that far right terror is the fastest growing terror group in the UK.

I believe they said that 80% of terror investigations still relate to islamist extremists, but over the last two years there has been an obvious increase in "far right" terror that they deal with and they mentioned it mainly in relation to Birmingham.

Unfortunately there isn't a written article linked to this, but the video report it below.

https://news.sky.com/story/frenzy-of-hatred-the-dramatic-rise-of-far-right-extremists-11609611

What do people think this might be down to?

 

[VincentHanna]

I think it was a pretty safe assumption that Islamic terror is the biggy?

Most attacks on this country in the last 10 years were Islamic extremists.

 

[VincentHanna]

It's often said that immigration increases GDP. And this is true. But it overlooks a few things. Firstly, GDP isn't all about manufacturing and productivity. It's just a crude measure of economic activity. If your landlord puts your rent up by £80 per month, that's an increase in GDP. But is that a good thing for the country? If the bank forecloses on your house because you can't keep up repayments and resells it, that's an increase in GDP. One of the ways in which immigration increases GDP is through pushing up rents and house prices. GDP really is that simplisitic of a measure. Yes - really. Immigration suppresses wages and raises house prices. These are facts. Upper Middle Class people and the wealthy benefit from it because property owners see an increase in value and a decrease in labour costs. Upper Middle Class and the Wealthy control the media and therefore much of the public dialogue. None of this is controversial or arguable. There is a vested interest therefore in discrediting critics of immigration. That is a direct logical consequence.

Stating things are facts without doing any research is a bad move

From the bank of England's website

Housing investment is a small but unpredictable part of how we measure the total output of the economy. If you buy a newly built home, it directly contributes to total output (GDP), for example through investment in land and building materials as well as creating jobs. The local area also profits when new houses are built as newcomers will start using local shops and services.

Buying and selling existing homes does not affect GDP in the same way. The accompanying costs of a house transaction still benefit the economy, however. These can include anything from estate agent, legal or surveyor fees to buying a new sofa or paint.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/KnowledgeBank/how-does-the-housing-market-affect-the-economy

 

[VincentHanna]

The link to the video is in the OP, you could watch it.

20% of their cases now are for far right extremist groups, including banned groups who wanted to start a race war, that doesn't sound like some reaction to lefty liberals to me!

In 2017 the police dealt with 30,984 terror related reports and arrested 412 people.

I admit those are nationwide figures and not specific to the west midlands police but that's still a lot of work for them to do.

 

[VincentHanna]

The conservatives are "right wing"

We're talking about extreme right wing ideology, not someone who thinks immigration is a bit of an issue.

 

[VincentHanna]

Wonder whether Lauren Southern, rather outrageously arrested and detained under a terrorism act, counted in the figures for 'right wing terrorists'.

His arrest under the terroist act is a rather separate matter as to whether or not he should be have been admitted or denied entry into the UK.

Is Lauren southern a man?

 

[VincentHanna]

It seems to me that the far right/Nazi/Fascist threat that the left are pushing heavily at every opportunity is just an attack on anything that stands against their own political agenda,

I wouldn't describe sky news as "The left"

 

[VincentHanna]

Oh, I knew none of that. I'm filing that little lot away for future use, to be sure!

If by "for future use" you are going to say: "The IRA were left-wing terrorists" then that isn't honestly representing their intentions.

 

[VincentHanna]

Head of counter terror has confirmed this is the case:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49753325

7 out of the 22 last foiled terror plots were by far right white supremacists.

 

[VincentHanna]

Post "credit crunch" analysis indicates stimulating the economy would have gotten us out of recession sooner than austerity, plus without the police cuts, cuts to social care etc it's likely that crime and more importantly knife crime wouldn't have gotten as bad.