Farage

[TW]Fox · 4 Jul 2016 at 11:28

deuse said:
Thank you Nigel Farage for making my country better. See you in the pub

He actually did pretty much nothing - no place on the official campaign, no meaningful place in office. Just a load of pointless hot air appealing to those who think a bunch of words and a nice pint trumps fact.

I guess he did waste a tone of our money not bothering to vote in the EU, contributing to make it less democratic

RaohNS · 4 Jul 2016 at 11:29

LOAM said:
He's ranked 745th out of 746 for attendance which is only 40%. Imagine if you could only turn up to work 40% of the time and still get paid, never mind have any influences.

And yet he has gained thousands of followers on the back of his claims that Europe is a beast that we have no say in etc etc when part of the problem is that our MEP's don't turn up to give us a say. I don't know if he's just really clever or people are just really stupid.

Yes. Utterly useless... But achieved the impossible. Without him and his impetus we would not be having any of the 30+ threads we have seen.

At least he wasn't the worst.

alex said:
He and UKIP as a whole have an appalling attendance and voting record they could have worked with Europe to represent the electorate but instead have chosen to take the money and laze about. Defending his attendance record is frankly odd, if my MP had a similar attendance record I would be writing to them to let them know how disappointed I was!

So who is your MEP?

How does voting go again in the EU parliament?

We technically according to remainers anyway should never have even joined in 73!

RaohNS · 4 Jul 2016 at 11:30

[TW]Fox;29735618 said:
He actually did pretty much nothing - no place on the official campaign, no meaningful place in office. Just a load of pointless hot air appealing to those who think a bunch of words and a nice pint trumps fact.

I guess he did waste a tone of our money not bothering to vote in the EU, contributing to make it less democratic

Only someone with a spanner loose would think the EU is democratic

Chris Wilson · 4 Jul 2016 at 11:36

UTmaniac said:
Is he about to be adopted by the Cons and get that cabinet place?

He only resigned in the last couple of hours, just like the referendum result was only known a few days ago. Patience and acceptance of defeat are virtues sadly lacking in these bearded cloisters

"We've not won, we've not won, we want to go again. AGAIN.... NOW!!"

A bit of National Service is hopefully on the horizon, would do a power of good

Chris Wilson · 4 Jul 2016 at 11:40

a1ex2001 said:
He and UKIP as a whole have an appalling attendance and voting record they could have worked with Europe to represent the electorate but instead have chosen to take the money and laze about. Defending his attendance record is frankly odd, if my MP had a similar attendance record I would be writing to them to let them know how disappointed I was!

Why did the EU not kick him out then? Does it not show how it's a job for life with no real requirement to actually do anything useful? A proof that it squanders money even when the waste is apparent to a casual internet surfer?

Profligate waste is endemic throughout the EU, just like the NHS. Both are dinosaurs in their death throws.

Raymond Lin · 4 Jul 2016 at 11:41

Strong leaders have plans, and see through their plans to the end.

Farage and Johnson used this for their political gain, then quits leaving the country in a mess. It shows that

1 – They never had a plan to begin with
2 – Seeing they are out of depth to deal with the Brexist, the only thing they could do is the coward act by quitting so they don't have the responsibility to carry it through, not that they know how in the first place

That is before we get into his political allegiance.

VincentHanna · 4 Jul 2016 at 11:44

Chris Wilson said:
A bit of National Service is hopefully on the horizon, would do a power of good

I've noticed the people that say this tend to be:

A) Old enough that it wouldn't personally affect them
B) Haven't ever served in the forces themselves.

[TW]Fox · 4 Jul 2016 at 11:46

Chris Wilson said:
Why did the EU not kick him out then?

Because they were democratically elected?

Does it not show how it's a job for life with no real requirement to actually do anything useful?

How is a job which requires re-election a 'job for life'?! Your own job is more of a job for life - at least you don't need to be voted back in every X years!

a1ex2001 · 4 Jul 2016 at 11:47

RaohNS said:
At least he wasn't the worst.

So who is your MEP?

The only one worse was an MEP with serious Health issues, similar holds true for the parties attendance in general.

The MEP's from my area are irrelevant but obviously all attend better than Nige even the UKIP wasters

Greebo · 4 Jul 2016 at 11:53

Chris Wilson said:
Why did the EU not kick him out then? Does it not show how it's a job for life with no real requirement to actually do anything useful? A proof that it squanders money even when the waste is apparent to a casual internet surfer?

Profligate waste is endemic throughout the EU, just like the NHS. Both are dinosaurs in their death throws.

They can't. he is elected. He could have not turned up to a single vote and it would be assumed that the voting public wouldnt elect an MP/MEP again because they didnt do their job or perhaps they should have voted somebody trustworthy in the first place to represent them

Chris Wilson · 4 Jul 2016 at 11:53

VincentHanna said:
I've noticed the people that say this tend to be:

A) Old enough that it wouldn't personally affect them
B) Haven't ever served in the forces themselves.

You need to find the company of a better class of young person, those to whom patriotism isn't a dirty word, or those that have experienced what the NHS have done for the grand parents when supposedly being cared for under its auspices. Speak to young people in military uniform, the ones who are now risking, or will have to in the future, risk their necks defending you from our adversaries, whilst the Liberal peace lovers hide behind their curtains.

I know countless people under thirty who think and say similarly to myself.

deuse · 4 Jul 2016 at 11:55

Raymond Lin said:
Strong leaders have plans, and see through their plans to the end.

And Cameron had a back bone of a jelly fish. Nothing but lies from that thing.

Rilot · 4 Jul 2016 at 11:56

Chris Wilson said:
looked like Warsaw

Cool, Warsaw is a fantastic city:

RaohNS · 4 Jul 2016 at 11:57

a1ex2001 said:
The only one worse was an MEP with serious Health issues, similar holds true for the parties attendance in general.

The MEP's from my area are irrelevant but obviously all attend better than Nige even the UKIP wasters

Indeed but still. We are where we are.

eggcup · 4 Jul 2016 at 12:01

Rilot said:
Cool, Warsaw is a fantastic city:

Pictures of Warsaw

malachi · 4 Jul 2016 at 12:13

Chris Wilson said:
....

But Im not the type of person who blames other people for my own mistakes. I accept it and get on with me life instead of criticising others. Farage is clearly part of the "Blame Culture"

deuse · 4 Jul 2016 at 12:35

Rilot said:
Cool, Warsaw is a fantastic city:

Not many people there now

Raymond Lin · 4 Jul 2016 at 12:37

deuse said:
And Cameron had a back bone of a jelly fish. Nothing but lies from that thing.

If we are going to compare lies....where does one start with Farage?

Schlong&Stable · 4 Jul 2016 at 12:39

Rilot said:
Cool, Warsaw is a fantastic city:

It's okay, but the city centre itself isn't that pretty. There's a lot of old Soviet era architecture and ugly skyscrapers being built. Parts of it look nice though.

Darujhistan · 4 Jul 2016 at 12:42

Makes you wonder why more people from the UK who support free movement of labour don't move to Warsaw.

It's clearly lovely, it must be better living there than in a typically dull English town.