Story reminded me of my recent flight back from Vegas to London. I had a verry large american fellow in the seat beside me. He couldn't fold down his tray table his gut was so big. I knew him getting up to let me to the toilet would be a struggle. When I eventually asked him it took him about 3 minutes to get up and shook the seat in front so much (as he used it to pull himself up) that the person in it probably had whiplash. Felt sorry for them.
Fat shaming on a plane - who is in the wrong?
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If he was shaming her he would have told her directly.
Without fail EVERY single overweight person I know wants to do something about it. I suppose SJWs will say that they have been preconditioned to hate their bodies by the media and by advertising. Another way to look at it is that these people are acutely aware of the damage their are doing to their long term health by carrying excessive weight around.
Whatever the call....I am not pro fat shaming ( this guy wasn't IMO) and I am not pro fat acceptance either....but it's a self induced trait most of the time and it's within most people's ability to do something about it if they want to.
Well, no. You're both missing the point I was making.
That being: if you are making 'private' communications, then they aren't so private if you are broadcasting them to those around you.
If you are talking on the phone about how fat the person next to you on the plane is, then I think most would say that's a step too far. But if you're sending a text message saying it, whilst the person is sat right next to you, their face less than a foot further away from the screen than your own, then you are still broadcasting that 'private' communication in the same way as if you were talking, just visually rather than aurally.
It's still ******* rude, and it's still fair for the 'victim' to be ****** off about it.
And that doesn't change how crap it is to be stuck next to a bloater on a plane. And it's still fair to be annoyed about that
Well sadly people just like being rude/horrible about others. However, just because she's a woman doesn't mean she's automatically right either.
The guy was rude about her and apologised. Doesn't mean he was right to be rude though. She read his messages and then decided to make an issue out of it when she could have just accepted his apology and left it.
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He has not broadcast it to her nor anyone else on the plane. He is having a private conversation with somebody.
She can see his ******* phone screen, since she's sat right next to him as he's typing. How is that not broadcasting it in the same way as talking on the phone?
She's a Yank so by default she is 50% more full of self-confident bs. She's a successful social media queen, that gives her 50% more self confidence bs.
Considering how many overweight people there are in the world X how many flights there are per day, statistically this scenario must happen at least once per flight? But this is the problem of social media bs.
He's a dick, she's a dick. The perfect dick storm.
It's still mildly entertaining how special people think they are.
Btw I would gladly see 6 seats per plain turned into 4 for fat and tall people.
I'm 6ft6.5 and it's physically painfully to fly.
I'd absolutely pay x 1.5 more to have enough legroom to fold them on sideways or atleast not slammed into the seat in front.
Airlines should consider this.
Considering how many overweight people there are in the world X how many flights there are per day, statistically this scenario must happen at least once per flight? But this is the problem of social media bs.
He's a dick, she's a dick. The perfect dick storm.
It's still mildly entertaining how special people think they are.
Btw I would gladly see 6 seats per plain turned into 4 for fat and tall people.
I'm 6ft6.5 and it's physically painfully to fly.
I'd absolutely pay x 1.5 more to have enough legroom to fold them on sideways or atleast not slammed into the seat in front.
Airlines should consider this.
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That is not what broadcasting is for start.
She can see the screen yes, but she would have to have positioned herself to purposefully have a view of his private conversation no?
He has not stuck the phone in her face and said "oi read this!" He is having a private conversation on his phone which she has at some point made an attempt to see what he is talking about.
She has to intentionally look at the screen. Eyes aren't like esrs. Ears pickup all sounds fired at them. You have to point and focus your eyes.
Back in the 19th century, there was a "Fat Mans Club" in London (So there is nothing new here)
Conditions for membership was that prospective members had to demonstrate that they could not pass through the front door.
There was a double door side entrance for those admitted to the club.
TL;DR There are two doors....The larger one is locked after the mark is inside.
What is broadcasting then mate?
If someone's reading a book next to you on a plane, you can barely avoid noticing what they're reading. Or if they're playing Cow Clicker+++ then you will spot that too. Why on earth would anyone think that they can send texts sat next to someone without them seeing what you're writing? Would you do it at work and assume you can **** your boss off when he's next to you?
There is an old saying along the lines of...
"Those who eavesdrop rarely hear good of themselves"
Not too dissimilar imo to someone who works for police/ phone company/ secret squirrel brigade/ insert some tin foil hat agency looking at your messages because they can.
People would scream invasion of privacy then.
Just because she had the ability to see them, doesn't make it any less of an invasion of privacy.
And no, you don't accidentally read someone's text messages, at least not on the level of detail she did. With numerous pictures to go with.
People would scream invasion of privacy then.
Just because she had the ability to see them, doesn't make it any less of an invasion of privacy.
And no, you don't accidentally read someone's text messages, at least not on the level of detail she did. With numerous pictures to go with.
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Broadcasting is the transmission of signals for any number of end users to receive, typically over a wide geographical area.
I would look away if I could see someone's phone screen. Recording private messages should be illegal.
I would look away if I could see someone's phone screen. Recording private messages should be illegal.
No I didnt fail to understand your point, I just have a fundamental difference of opinion on the quoted part of your post.
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Telling something to many people.
I pay little attention to the person sat next to me on an airplane to be honest. I certainly know that if they are using their phone to text they are not inviting me in to that private conversation.