Fat shaming on a plane - who is in the wrong?

Nasher said:
IKR. Dangerous sports and fast driving is good exercise :D

Do people even know how knackering ragging a car around a track is? Last time I did Go-karting I could barely walk after 40 minutes of it :p
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None of these words make you sound go ... hang on, let me turn it around. All of these words make you sound like a gassy infant driving their Tonka truck with their fat, useless fingers and going "wheeh!".
 
dirtybeatfreak said:
I find it disgusting that some of you guys can have the attitude similar to that of "fat people disgust me" when I can pretty much guarantee they themselves aren't perfect in some other way.

For the record, I agree with the anti fat brigade on relevance to the OP's topic. But still think some of your attitudes suck :D
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Why do you have to be perfect to be disgusted by fat people?
 
I'd say many people are disgusted by obese people. And like wise others are disgusted by other things. As long as you don't go around persecuting people (I very much don't count this as persecution) then each to their own.
 
Nasher said:
IKR. Dangerous sports and fast driving is good exercise :D

Do people even know how knackering ragging a car around a track is? Last time I did Go-karting I could barely walk after 45 minutes of it :p
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Missed this one. I meant driving too fast on a normal road. You could cause an accident and that would affect others. Or extreme sports where you could injure yourself quite easily. Should people who get caught speeding/hurt themselves also have their healthcare rights taken away too? :)
 
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dirtybeatfreak said:
Indeed, she is clearly in the wrong in this instance but some of the attitudes of people here is disgusting. I wonder if these same people are perfect in their own lives, don't smoke, binge drink, play dangerous sports, drive too fast. I very much doubt it :)
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do those on here who don't live perfect lives get our knickers in a twist and go crying to their social media 'family' if someone points out our flaws? probably not. and that's my personal issue with her.

'don't assume anything about me by my body size'...........**** off, that's exactly what i'll do. if you look like a fat sow I'm perfectly entitled to assume you'll be no ******* use in an emergency. (other than to use as a plug to close a huge ******* gap)

just going to use smoking to create an analogy....

if someone sees me having a smoke, I'm not going to get pissy if they assume I won't be able to run a marathon. it's a perfectly natural assumption, whether they are right or wrong.

imagine if some guy got on a plane smelling of cigarette smoke and he caught the person next to him texting a mate saying 'wheezy mc wheezerson' has just sat down beside him. imaging if he then pulled the other person and went on a 'don't judge me' rant. everyone would be in stitches and saying mr smoker should stfu - but because it's a woman and she's fat (not plus size, she's ******* fat!!) the 'texter' is an awful bad man.

it's wheezy mc wheezersons choice to smoke
it's fatty mc fattersons choice to be fat (in this case - I appreciate some folks are large for medical reasons)

neither have a right to get all arse twisted if someone judges them on their live choice.

what even further pee's me off with this midden is the fact she's a model?! the ****? she's promoting the image that being morbidly obese is a good thing - I'd love to know which companies sponsor/hire her

PS I'm equally against these biafran models you see. neither promotes a healthy body shape
 
Thekwango said:
do those on here who don't live perfect lives get our knickers in a twist and go crying to their social media 'family' if someone points out our flaws? probably not. and that's my personal issue with her.

'don't assume anything about me by my body size'...........**** off, that's exactly what i'll do. if you look like a fat sow I'm perfectly entitled to assume you'll be no ******* use in an emergency. (other than to use as a plug to close a huge ******* gap)

just going to use smoking to create an analogy....

if someone sees me having a smoke, I'm not going to get pissy if they assume I won't be able to run a marathon. it's a perfectly natural assumption, whether they are right or wrong.

imagine if some guy got on a plane smelling of cigarette smoke and he caught the person next to him texting a mate saying 'wheezy mc wheezerson' has just sat down beside him. imaging if he then pulled the other person and went on a 'don't judge me' rant. everyone would be in stitches and saying mr smoker should stfu - but because it's a woman and she's fat (not plus size, she's ******* fat!!) the 'texter' is an awful bad man.

it's wheezy mc wheezersons choice to smoke
it's fatty mc fattersons choice to be fat (in this case - I appreciate some folks are large for medical reasons)

neither have a right to get all arse twisted if someone judges them on their live choice.

what even further pee's me off with this midden is the fact she's a model?! the ****? she's promoting the image that being morbidly obese is a good thing - I'd love to know which companies sponsor/hire her

PS I'm equally against these biafran models you see. neither promotes a healthy body shape
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Can't argue with that and I 100% agree. But I would also say the same thing if it were against smokers (lol @wheezy mc wheezersons ). I just don't agree with judging people because of one thing you can see wrong. Anyone can see this woman was in the wrong and she shouldn't be promoting being fat as a good or 'ok' thing. Someone else though could be great in all other aspects of their lives but some people come across on here with the attitude that if they are fat, then they must be sub human scumbags who are just awful people. I might well be disgusted that someone smokes, but I wouldn't then think they are scum or not worthy of healthcare for example. My view doesn't just stem from this thread, but from seeing similar people who say the same things in these types of threads. That is what I find disgusting about some attitudes on here is all :)
 
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Smokers have to pay a truck load in tax though. Also most insurance is higher for them. As we as being banned from public buildings and places of work (often on the entire premises now). It's slowly being removed from society though everyone rejecting it, which is a good thing right?

But someone who eats 15 pies instead of 2 gets special arrangements made for them and expects tax payers to foot the bill. While not speaking out against it.
 
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dirtybeatfreak said:
. I find it disgusting that some of you guys can have the attitude similar to that of "fat people disgust me" when I can pretty much guarantee they themselves aren't perfect in some other way.

For the record, I agree with the anti fat brigade on relevance to the OP's topic. But still think some of your attitudes suck :D
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I find the morbidly obese disgusting in a purely physical sense.

Can't help what you find gross its not a conscious decision.
 
Tefal said:
I find the morbidly obese disgusting in a purely physical sense.

Can't help what you find gross its not a conscious decision.
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And that's fine, like you say you naturally can't help that. I also understand people also automatically make a judgement based on first impressions, that is natural and can't be helped too.

But some take it further than that on here and judging by their posts over several threads (and the fact they're always here to post the same views), it is obvious what their views and automatic judgements are and I just think it's a bad attitude to have when these same people probably have something they do that isn't deemed healthy or is seen as disgusting by others too (like smoking) i.e 'not perfect themselves too'.

I dunno, maybe I see it in the wrong way, I'm not sure :)

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dowie said:
indeed, it is perfectly possible for a fat person to both hate themselves and other fat people
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of course, but again that's taking what I said as literal rather than how I meant it. I purely meant 'aren't perfect in some other way' as 'they must do some things wrong too'. I thought that was obvious :(
 
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dirtybeatfreak said:
Ahh apologies, I can see how my comment wasn't very relevant to the thread but it was aimed at the attitudes of people here towards fat people. As an example (which I should have pointed out) some people here are of the belief that fat people shouldn't be covered for free healthcare as they are a burden for example. My point was that how is that any more different to people who carry out those activities. I find it disgusting that some of you guys can have the attitude similar to that of "fat people disgust me" when I can pretty much guarantee they themselves aren't perfect in some other way.

For the record, I agree with the anti fat brigade on relevance to the OP's topic. But still think some of your attitudes suck :D
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Agreed. I limit my activity on GD now for this very reason. I think it's sort of indicative of our cultures attitude towards mental health, to which obesity and many other addictions are undoubtedly linked.

"Look at that fat pig with no self control".

People forget that it's not just an eating problem, it's more a LIVING problem that these people have. As evidenced throughout this forum, people find it so very, very difficult to understand that life for some people is different, let alone more difficult.

Not really to do with the topic of the thread, but I felt it was somewhat relevant.
 
dirtybeatfreak said:
Can't argue with that and I 100% agree. But I would also say the same thing if it were against smokers (lol @wheezy mc wheezersons ). I just don't agree with judging people because of one thing you can see wrong. Anyone can see this woman was in the wrong and she shouldn't be promoting being fat as a good or 'ok' thing. Someone could be great in all other aspects of their lives but some people come across on here with the attitude that if they are fat, then they must be sub human scumbags who are just awful people. I might well be disgusted that someone smokes, but I wouldn't then think they are scum or not worthy of healthcare for example. My view doesn't just stem from this thread, but from seeing similar people who say the same things in these types of threads. That is what I find disgusting about some attitudes on here is all :)
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I do agree with you in general. of course we shouldn't just judge people on appearances - even though most of us do. I do however think you can form an opinion/assumption of someone given their appearance. i.e. in this instance when mr texter suggested perhaps she wasn't the best person to be sat at the emergency exit, I think that was a perfectly acceptable assumption/judgement to make. if I see someone with only 1 arm am I wrong to assume they aren't going to be very good at climbing ropes? am I being rude and offensive to make that assumption?

I definitely do agree with you though that there are a lot of judge the book by it's cover folks on the forums - usually pompous middle class wannabes :p
 
CREATIVE!11 said:
SAY DAT TO MY FACE IRL M8
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Now now, such loutish outbursts lower the overall tone of the conversation. Don't get my turtleneck jumper ruffled. You wouldn't like me when my turtleneck jumper gets ruffled!! :p

(Google Billy Connolly's take on the middle class social climbers!!)
 
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