my commute is ridiculously expensive, and whilst it is fine when it works (having two train operators and ~6 trains an hour to choose from at peak times is nice) but the striking is definitely not winning me over to their side. It costs me over £60 to get to work and back (£10 parking £51 day return) on Thameslink/EMR, for a 40 minute train, and it just isn't as reliable as it needs to be.
£100/day? Sod that.
I just did a back of a fag packet calculation and it costs me the same, annually, to run my car as it would be to take the train with the advantage of the car being -
1.5.mile walk to train station
20 min train ride
Swap trains
10 min train ride
1.5.mile walk to work
Then chuck in the inclement weather and also that, having a car, means I can use it for other trips.
My calculation included fuel, insurance and tax but not repairs or initial outlay of the car. The car I have is owned outright, didn't cost very much at all and is very reliable if a little "uncool" but who cares, it's a mode of transport that meets my needs.
That and I'm not beholden to train disruptions or having to share it with the gen pop who, at times, are just month breathing animals...
I don’t work in central London but I do work in London, hence the £lol cost. I’m not even coming from that far out, I’m on the train for 1hr 17mins (door to door is a lot longer!).assume you don't work in central London - driving just isn't really feasible, you may not beholden to disruptions but you are to traffic, and parking etc
What? Seriously? That's nearly a days wage for me. Wouldn't be worth me working if I had to pay that much to get in on a day. Makes my half hour walk to work seem brilliant.I wish mine was that cheap. I’ll be in the £8k club next time the fares go up. Daily fares are north of £100 these days.
Yup, the last one I bought was £7.6k so the next one will be ~£8k based on current inflation levels.
That’s the thing about increasing fares with inflation. In real terms the more expensive fares rise by several hundred £ every year.
Edit: some people I know spend as much time commuting across London as I do to London but their fare is a fraction of the cost as it’s all under TFL.
8k!Yup, the last one I bought was £7.6k so the next one will be ~£8k based on current inflation levels.
That’s the thing about increasing fares with inflation. In real terms the more expensive fares rise by several hundred £ every year.
Edit: some people I know spend as much time commuting across London as I do to London but their fare is a fraction of the cost as it’s all under TFL.
assume you don't work in central London - driving just isn't really feasible, you may not beholden to disruptions but you are to traffic, and parking etc
Dunno how you guys don't go crazy with stuff like thatHah not even central London but there were days it would have been quicker to commute from my parent's house over 100 miles away by train than do 10-11 miles by car (or bus) through London. Couple of places could take over an hour just to do half a mile between 2 junctions if you got unlucky.
EDIT: Heh Google currently saying 26 minutes for that journey - but a little more research shows 1 hour 42 minutes average at rush hour.
Dunno how you guys don't go crazy with stuff like that
Amazing what a dictatorship can do....no unions, no rights, no planning permission, no purchasing people's homes etc etcThe important parts of the railways are nationalised. Most of the delays happen because we still have a railway which is fundamentally Victorian.
Nationalisation of the train operators is not going to make a material difference to the service.
Every time the government tries embark on national infrastructure projects it’s litigated to hell and back by NIMBYs and all it does is delay projects and significantly add to costs. It’s no wonder why they don’t bother.
Meanwhile China has built thousands of kilometres of high speed rail track in the time it’s taken us to plan a branch line between Oxford and Cambridge, let alone HS2.
After 4 years of it I moved out of London, though it wasn't the main reason it certainly contributed.
Unions need crushing. Unfortunately the opposite will happen if Labour get in next.
London is so big though that it is almost like a bunch of towns all next to each other, especially with the tube network meaning you sort of pop out in different districts rather than feeling like you are moving around a big city. I mean if you travel say 30mins on a train from A to B that could mean from City A to City B or London district A to London district B, in both cases you are moving from a busy area to another busy area. That said, London is very busy in certain locations/times due to the population density, and suffers from what I like to call 'outdoor claustrophobia' whereby I dislike being outdoors and unable to walk freely (I'm fine with it indoors) due to logjam on people. Like constantly having to weave around pedestrians on the pavement etc.I'm here in zadar, Croatia. And thought.. This is a nice size city. Doesn't seem too big.
Just found out there's only 70k population.
I guess that shows how I (personally) literally can't imagine living in somewhere like. London. When I find a population center of 70k "just right"
Peasant. Get back to work.Explain your reasoning?
Also - what are you employed as?