Felipe Massa, In or Out?

NxDiiS · 23 May 2012 at 10:06

Apparently Ferrari have given Felipe an 'Ultimate' Ultimatum, he really needs to improve at Monaco especially with Perez eyeing his seat and the rumors that Webber is in talks with Ferrari. Personally i want to see Webber in a Ferrari next year, and Riccardo in Red Bull. Jean Eric Vergne is too cocky.

Skeeter · 23 May 2012 at 10:12

In before the Mr Men...

mk17 · 23 May 2012 at 10:14

Unless Felipe really, really raises his game he won't be back next year. Nice to see Webber or Perez there, can't see it being Jev - although "too cocky" is a ship that sailed already for most of these chaps.

Nismo · 23 May 2012 at 10:15

Get rid, he's lost it and his performances are pretty embarrassing.

Perez at Ferrari would be good, can't see Webber going there just for one season or whatever unless they want to give Perez more time at Sauber.

~Mike~ · 23 May 2012 at 10:21

Sadly, its time to say 'Arrivederci' to Mr Massa.

khevolution · 23 May 2012 at 10:24

Im going to have to agree with everybody else here and say that he wont be in a Ferrari seat next year, although i think he would do well in a lower team.

Guerrilla · 23 May 2012 at 10:32

Think they will keep him the remainder of the season, but don't think he will be there next year.

He would have to not jsut improve but get very good results to deserve another year at Ferrari and I can't see that happening, mainly as he just doesn't seem to have it anymore but also as it's such a tight season.

Maybe he just needs the less pressure environment of a lower team, or perhaps he would more suited to a complete change of scene and should follow Barrichello to Indycar or have a crack at NASCAR.

GravyMonster · 23 May 2012 at 10:52

The only thing saving Massa at the moment is the reduced testing. In years gone by, Ferrari would have given the replacement driver the T car, and have them drive around Fiorano or Mugello from dusk until dawn for a month to acclimatise.

I can see him being replaced by Perez before the season is out though. Whether it's a good move for Perez's career is another matter.

Skeeter said:
In before the Mr Men...

MooMoo444 · 23 May 2012 at 10:54

Massa doesn't even deserve a drive in a HRT, let alone a Ferrari.

He's just not good enough. Ferrari have a race winning car, yet he is always lagging in the double figure positions.

Get him out.

mp260767 · 23 May 2012 at 11:54

MooMoo444 said:
Ferrari have a race winning car, yet he is always lagging in the double figure positions.

to be fair alonso has made it a race winning car, but yeah massa isn't even a reliable no2 driver anymore so has to go.

MooMoo444 · 23 May 2012 at 11:56

mp260767 said:
to be fair alonso has made it a race winning car, but yeah massa isn't even a reliable no2 driver anymore so has to go.

True, Alonso is a beast

Ferrari will have to be careful who they sign though. We all know how Alonso takes to having a bit of competition along side him in the team.

Tweaker · 23 May 2012 at 11:57

Do Sauber get a discount for Ferrari engines, or at least, would they if Perez went there?

Shimmy · 23 May 2012 at 12:19

The question isn't if he'll have a seat next year, he won't.

Just a matter of if he'll get dumped during the summer break.

emmjaybee · 23 May 2012 at 12:23

Not bothered who drives for Ferrari, but Massa has lost his game, funny how it seems to have happened just after his spring accident. Good to see Kimi back proving how good a driver he is. Kobyashi would be good for Ferrari though.

Morba · 23 May 2012 at 12:44

Massa just hasn't been the same since his accident. Shame really. It is time to go, preferrably for ferrari (unless significantly financed in another way) over the summer break

FrankJH · 23 May 2012 at 12:50

As above, cant see anyone replacing massa before next season because of the testing situation, however I think he has pretty much gone already.

Perez will stick with Sauber this season (I sincerely hope he does, as that is what he said he was definitely going to do a few races ago) and then move for next season.

Cant even see Massa being useful for back of the grid cars (even if the teams could afford him)

JeditOjanen · 23 May 2012 at 13:00

Guerrilla said:
Think they will keep him the remainder of the season, but don't think he will be there next year.

Reports say he's been told he's out if he doesn't improve at Monaco or Canada. Perez won't switch mid-season, I don't think, but I can easily see Ferrari tapping Alguersuari for the seat. He's a quick learner, has proven he can do well from bad qualifying positions, and on top of which he's Spanish and won't mess with Alonso.

Morbius · 23 May 2012 at 13:19

emmjaybee said:
Not bothered who drives for Ferrari, but Massa has lost his game, funny how it seems to have happened just after his spring accident. Good to see Kimi back proving how good a driver he is. Kobyashi would be good for Ferrari though.

It's happened several times before. Wendlinger's crash at Monaco in 1994 comes to mind. Possibly Panis at Canada in 97 as well.

JeditOjanen said:
Perez won't switch mid-season, I don't think, but I can easily see Ferrari tapping Alguersuari for the seat. He's a quick learner, has proven he can do well from bad qualifying positions, and on top of which he's Spanish and won't mess with Alonso.

I rate Alguersuari quite highly. I'd love to see how he'd get on in a decent car.

Glaucus · 23 May 2012 at 13:38

Sooner he's gone the better. Give someone else a chance and some practice. Prefflavly who ever they are going to run in 2013

Duke · 23 May 2012 at 14:06

Can't see him being replaced mid-season. I think Perez will want another season at Sauber which could make a Webber 'one year before retirement season' an option.