Felipe Massa, In or Out?

Webber is fit and could drive for the next few years.
It's surprising what driving for Ferrari and receiving a huge pay-rise does for your motivation.
I'm not sure if he would be any better than Massa, though.
 
Webber is fit and could drive for the next few years.
It's surprising what driving for Ferrari and receiving a huge pay-rise does for your motivation.
I'm not sure if he would be any better than Massa, though.
Tell that to Kimi:D
 
So....Massa finished at Monaco almost exactly a lap ahead of the guy who, according to half the world, is supposed to be replacing him. He also finished just five-and-a-bit seconds behind his illustrious team-mate. Now, I ain't no arithmetical genius but even I can work out that this made The Teflon Titan™ less than seven hundredths of a second per lap quicker than Felipe.

Flash in the pan, or has he turned the corner? Guess we'll know after the next couple of races, meantime I shall be hoping that it's the latter.
 
More to do with Webber being the cork in the bottle all afternoon I feel :)

We'll see in Canada if Massa has actually upped his game.

And was Webber the cork in the bottle in practice and qualifying? Massa was quick all weekend compared to Alonso.

People who stopped late in the race with fresh rubber and low fuel are off course going to be quicker than those 30 laps into a stint.
 
It's a shame but its the strategy, two stops was faster, but required you to overtake slower one stop cars which wasn't happening any time soon making it worthless.

Out of everyone, Vettel had the best day, his strategy and some luck into the first corner got him some decent points.


As for Massa, Monaco was always going to be a train to the finish, Canada he will have to pull his finger out.
 
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It's a shame but its the strategy, two stops was faster, but required you to overtake slower one stop cars which wasn't happening any time soon making it worthless.

Out of everyone, Vettel had the best day, his strategy and some luck into the first corner got him some decent points.


As for Massa, Monaco was always going to be a train to the finish, Canada he will have to pull his finger out.

Canada is also one of his worst tracks, which won't help. I doubt he has turned it around, it was probably just the tyres suited him this weekend.
 
So....Massa finished at Monaco almost exactly a lap ahead of the guy who, according to half the world, is supposed to be replacing him. He also finished just five-and-a-bit seconds behind his illustrious team-mate. Now, I ain't no arithmetical genius but even I can work out that this made The Teflon Titan™ less than seven hundredths of a second per lap quicker than Felipe.

Flash in the pan, or has he turned the corner? Guess we'll know after the next couple of races, meantime I shall be hoping that it's the latter.

Massa is a good guy, I'm just not sure he can still do it as well as before, he needs to get into a team and NOT be second fiddle, to really try to prove why he is in F1.
 
Flash in the pan, or has he turned the corner? Guess we'll know after the next couple of races, meantime I shall be hoping that it's the latter.

he's going to have to do a lot more than that to make up for years of rubbish driving, in my eyes. One race doesn't prove a lot.

The last couple of years he should be in midfield to back field using his knowledge to help develop the team, set up car. Or retire near the front.
 
he's going to have to do a lot more than that to make up for years of rubbish driving, in my eyes. One race doesn't prove a lot.

The last couple of years he should be in midfield to back field using his knowledge to help develop the team, set up car. Or retire near the front.

Completely agree.
 
We can't get rid of Massa. He's this generations Ralf Schumacher.

:D

He had his time in the sun, but after binning it in spectacular fashion at the Hungaroring, then having Mr. Alonso waltz in and push him to one side with little or no effort, Massa's never been the same since. And I don't think any of the big teams would give him a second glance if he became available.
 
We can't get rid of Massa. He's this generations Ralf Schumacher.

To be fair to Felipe, he did at least challenge for the 2008 title and narrowly lost out. Ralf was nowhere most of the time once JPM had a reliable chassis at Williams (it didn't help that RS proceeded to injure himself in a mid-season crash leaving Gene and Pizzonia to fill in for several races).
 
he's going to have to do a lot more than that to make up for years of rubbish driving, in my eyes. One race doesn't prove a lot.

The last couple of years he should be in midfield to back field using his knowledge to help develop the team, set up car. Or retire near the front.

Just you worry about Jenson as you clearly don't know much about Massa, last 3 races Massa has outscored him, must be worrying since you hinge everything on points scored so much :)

Massa 9 points
Jenson 2 points
 
To be fair to Felipe, he did at least challenge for the 2008 title and narrowly lost out. Ralf was nowhere most of the time once JPM had a reliable chassis at Williams (it didn't help that RS proceeded to injure himself in a mid-season crash leaving Gene and Pizzonia to fill in for several races).

Indeed, Massa done well enough against MS, beat Kimi and was decent against Alonso in 2010 and backed him up well, 2011 was a poor year for various reasons just like Lewis has a poor 2011, so far in 2012 Massa has performed 50% of the time. 7 years driving a Ferrari, not bad for someone so terrible :D
 
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