Fergie charged by the FA again

Tom84 · 13 May 2011 at 11:04

Except this time no one really knows why, apparently they didn't like him praising Howard Webb before the Chelsea game at OT

Yeah no witch hunt is there, none whatsoever

Tom84 · 13 May 2011 at 11:07

Accendo said:
Is this true, any sources

Breaking news on SSN

Tom84 · 13 May 2011 at 11:09

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2011/alex-ferguson-charged-media-comments

Tom84 · 13 May 2011 at 11:13

jakeke said:
Maybe I'm stating the very, very, very obvious, but I think it's time Ferguson stopped doing this, he asks for trouble everytime he comments on a ref as he always pushes it

You of course are having a laugh? What was it he said that justifies this latest charge?

Tom84 · 13 May 2011 at 11:14

Accendo said:
What did Fergie actually say that was so bad?

Called him the best ref in the league FFS Fergie you were asking for trouble throwing wild accusations like that around ZOMG :mad:

Tom84 · 13 May 2011 at 11:22

DanH84 said:
So when exactly can you talk about a ref?

Fergie = Never ever under no circumstances whatsoever
Every other manager under the sun = whenever you want, knock yourselves out

Tom84 · 13 May 2011 at 11:26

jakeke said:
Yeah but we all know what Ferguson is doing when he talks about a ref nowadays, all he does is try and manipulate them, if he was speaking completely innocently about them fine, he always has an agenda though which is normally not complimentary

So they're charging him on a whim and an assumption then?

Gets even better :rolleyes:

Tom84 · 13 May 2011 at 11:30

Steedie said:
This is what he said, quoting the BBC:

"We are getting the best referee, there is no doubt about that," he said at the time.

"But (getting a bad decision) is definitely our big fear.

"We have the players to do it all right. We just hope it's our turn for a little bit of luck"

Those quotes weren't resulting from one question about Webb though and the charge is comments he made about Webb which was that SAF thinks he's the best in the league

Tom84 · 13 May 2011 at 11:59

AGD said:
It's not about what he's assumed to be doing. There's a simple rule in place not to speak about the ref before the game and he broke it. If they didn't charge him, people would say they were ignoring it when he broke the rules.

It will only be a slap on the wrist and a fine anyway.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=665122&sec=england&cc=5739

Article suggests only derogatory remarks will be charge, nothing about positive ones

Tom84 · 13 May 2011 at 12:00

Accendo said:
I remember Moyes speaking about the ref before an FA Cup semi-final against United but he never got charged for it.

Unless it's a new rule they've brought in.

Yeah it was, May 6th 2011 to be exact

Tom84 · 13 May 2011 at 12:32

DanH84 said:
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Why no action against him then?

Tom84 · 13 May 2011 at 12:33

Accendo said:
So what punishment are we expecting then, 5 game ban, how about 10 just for good measure.

Who knows but we should tell them where to stick their FA Cup campaign next season

Tom84 · 13 May 2011 at 15:28

Weebull said:
OH NOES THE MEDIA IS CLEARLY OUT TO GET FERGUSON WITH THIS SMALL FINE AND NO BAN THE HORROR

How do you know he wont get another ban? Besides which it's the principle of the matter

The FA - always making examples out of Manchester United

Tom84 · 13 May 2011 at 17:00

Accendo said:
Also, should the media be stopped from asking these type of questions or should the manager just refuse to answer.

As far as I'm concerned is if talking to the media is a mandate set by the FA then the questions asked to manager's & players needs to be moderated, why should managers get done for answering questions put to them honestly? If the FA have got a problem with managers slagging off refs then make it clear to the press they're not allowed to ask questions about them simple!

I dont see how they cant accept responsibility for the questions asked but they're more than happy to get involved if they dont like the answers.

Tom84 · 14 May 2011 at 11:01

HangTime said:
I think the point is that there is a rule you don't talk about refs before the game. It doesn't matter what he said, he could have said he thinks Webb has a nice front garden, the point is that you don't talk about them.

why's Ancolotti not getting done as well then if that's the case?

Tom84 · 15 May 2011 at 00:31

DanH84 said:
Conspiracy? nah. Incompetence and attempting to shift attention? Hell yes.

It cant be incompetence, not something as obvious as both managers making the same comment and only charging one of them

Tom84 · 17 May 2011 at 12:28

Fergie Given a warning about his future conduct, still no mention of Ancolotti though

Tom84 · 17 May 2011 at 23:08

Shamikebab said:
Yeah interesting how Carlo was never mentioned by them in the first place isn't it...

Perhaps they found out on the internet.

Nor was he ever publicly charged by the FA for improper conduct like SAF was....

Tom84 · 18 May 2011 at 00:21

Dabbles said:
SAF 'plays the [mind] game' more than anyone else in the league. I'm glad the FA are at least showing the pretence that they are standing up to him.

You cant punish someone on an assumption or a theory

Tom84 · 18 May 2011 at 00:43

Dabbles said:
He knew the rules. He broke them. He got punished. (Albeit only with a warning.)

That's not what you said though is it, you said the FA were right to charge him because he's playing mind games saying something positive about Webb. Your theory is neither here nor there you cant charge someone on an assumption.

The FA have simply charged him because apparently now you cant talk about ref's in any context.

I assume if you believe this rule has been brought in because of managers trying to influence referee's you also believe that Ancolotti was playing mind games praising Webb as well then?