Ferguson and Vidic win Premier League Manager and Player of the Year

How can it be 'of the year' in May? I've never understood that.

It makes no sense to judge a footballer on a calendar year, but then they probably should rename it football of the season, as everyone knows that's what it really is.
 
Well deserved for both.

You could probably make a case that Vidic didn't really deserve it but he's been very good on the whole and has done a decent job as captain.
 
Well deserved for both, Vidic has been immense this season but yes he shouldn't have got it because he pulls players back every now and again. :rolleyes:

What about all the headers he clears and the fact that if anything comes into the box anywhere near him he clears it?

Dalgleish and Hodgeson, fantastic, in one sentence it's a given that Man Utd should win the PL with all their world class players in need of motivation, yet Dalgleish and Hodgeson couldn't motivate their world class players could they?

Dalgleish is doing a fine job but you can't give it him for 6 months work! The same goes for West Brom, they went from a decent team going well, to a rough patch which saw their manager sacked and then picked up again for the run in, well done, have manager of the year :D

Why does it not surprise me that it's DM and cheets that don't grasp simple football achievements.
 
Well deserved for both, Vidic has been immense this season but yes he shouldn't have got it because he pulls players back every now and again. :rolleyes:

What about all the headers he clears and the fact that if anything comes into the box anywhere near him he clears it?

Dalgleish and Hodgeson, fantastic, in one sentence it's a given that Man Utd should win the PL with all their world class players in need of motivation, yet Dalgleish and Hodgeson couldn't motivate their world class players could they?

Dalgleish is doing a fine job but you can't give it him for 6 months work! The same goes for West Brom, they went from a decent team going well, to a rough patch which saw their manager sacked and then picked up again for the run in, well done, have manager of the year :D

Why does it not surprise me that it's DM and cheets that don't grasp simple football achievements.

Yet its you that can't grasp simple footballing achievements, West Brom lost 13 games in 25 under Matteo, they've since lost 2 in 12 under Hodgson. They won 7 games in 25, and have since won 5 in 12 games. No, he's barely changed them at all, that crap spell was really short.

For the mathematically impaired, he's taken West brom from a 52% loss rate to 16.67%, he's taken them from a 28% win rate to 41%. I'd say thats nothing short or miraculous, however no I don't think he should get manager of the season. But you claimed other people couldn't grasp simple achievements, I didn't.

As for vidic, he clears headers that come into the box, so has Terry, Kompany, and again, both resort to less cheating and less panicky moments to do so. Vidic is a beast, he's probably the strongest player in the league, but again he gets caught out FAR more often than the other best CB's in the league, not sure how thats hard to justify the fact that he then shouldn't be considered the best CB or having had the best year in the league.

Statistically there are better players discounting the red cards he should have received and penalties he should have conceded.

He clears every header into the box, yet his team concedes more often than other teams with other CB's.

This isn't the award for "whose a pretty good CB", this is PLAYER OF THE SEASON(for the pedantic people amongst you). He was not the best CB of the season, he wasn't close to the best defender of the season and he most certainly was not the best player in any position of the season.

Hence, the argument that he shouldn't have won it.
 
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Fergie i can understand him winning the award but Vidic like most in here didnt think he would win it..oh well congrats to the both of them.
 
Oh look, drag out the stats :rolleyes:

Here's a stat for you, how can Hodgeson for all his fantastic work with West Brom be given the Manager of the YEAR award? Come on brains, how does that work out?

He should be given it for putting Liverpool back 2 years I agree but manager of the year?

How many times should Kompany have been sent off this season if were taking that into account? How many times has he been wrong footed and clattered into a forward?

I've seen Terry do anything but his job this season, where has Vidic has single handedly kept teams out when we were going through our sticky patches.

Back on ignore you go.
 
Alas, football is watched in the stands and on TV and not via an Excel spreadsheet.

Given it's Manager of the 'Year'(Season) despite Hodgson/Dalglish's efforts they were only at the club for half a season, the former doing a terrible job at that. IMO Ferguson is a pretty good choice and Vidic seems pretty decent too, he's a leader on the pitch, there are other players probably with similar claims but it's certainly not a 'wrong' choice.
 
Yep, Terry completely bailed out of the leadership debate while Chelsea were having a rough patch and again when they were playing us in the cl and pl.
 
Alas, football is watched in the stands and on TV and not via an Excel spreadsheet.

Stats mean nothing in reality, we can all use stats but they should not be used to base arguments around.

Statistically, United should batter Barcelona at Wembley, Barca are crap from home this season, United are technically at 'home', Messi has never scored in England, blah, blah.............

I don't even know why I bothered nearly getting into an argument with him tbh :/
 
Given Vidic got away with most of his illegal antics he probably should get the award as they didn't cost his team in fact they benefitted from it. Had he got more reds (don't forget the handball against Arsenal as well!) then maybe Kompany would be in consideration.
 
At the start of season very few fancied United. In the eyes of many the squad wasnt good enough and the signings were poor and an illustration of a lack of cash. Many were talking of Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Spurs and Liverpool rather than United. For SAF to get the team to the title this season is one of his finest achievements.

Vidic was also instrumental in that, not just as captain but his performances without Rio and helping to bring through Smalling.
 
Given Vidic got away with most of his illegal antics he probably should get the award as they didn't cost his team in fact they benefitted from it. Had he got more reds (don't forget the handball against Arsenal as well!) then maybe Kompany would be in consideration.

Itd very debatable whether the decisions for Vidic actually affected the results of those games though - certainly didnt against Arsenal, yet the amount of times people consider highly debatable decisions for Chelsea vs Spurs which catagorically affected the result is forgotten about :confused:

Also suggesting some were automatic reds when they clearly werent (or at least its debatable whether its not a yellow) also make your comments dubious at best lol
 
Many were talking of Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Spurs and Liverpool rather than United.

I assume you literally mean people spoke about us rather than actually spoke about us achieving anything?

I'd have probably given the player of the year (or season or whatever it is) to Tevez but Vidic is far more deserving than Bale and Parker. As for Taggart's award; there hasn't been any standout manager in the league this season but he was 1 of a few decent shouts.
 
Would've had Leighton Baines down way ahead of Vidic. Played a full 90 minutes of every premier league game this season. 5 goals, 11 assists. Cant say I'm suprised they gave it to someone on the side that won the title though, fairly standard.
 
I assume you literally mean people spoke about us rather than actually spoke about us achieving anything?

I think there was a sense in certain quarters of the media that Roy would be able to move things on from Benitez. Certainly since the start of the PL this felt like one of the most negative pre-seasons in terms of United being tipped to do well and the increased number of challengers. Many a comparison was made about the "ambition" of City compared to United being "broke" and on the slide.
 
Would've had Leighton Baines down way ahead of Vidic. Played a full 90 minutes of every premier league game this season. 5 goals, 11 assists. Cant say I'm suprised they gave it to someone on the side that won the title though, fairly standard.

You cant win really.Parker get a POTY award and there are crys of "WTF? West Ham went down, he was just the best of a bad bunch", Vidic gets it and its "only cos United won the title".

Its such a subjective thing really.
 
Oh look, drag out the stats :rolleyes:

Here's a stat for you, how can Hodgeson for all his fantastic work with West Brom be given the Manager of the YEAR award? Come on brains, how does that work out?


How many times should Kompany have been sent off this season if were taking that into account? How many times has he been wrong footed and clattered into a forward?

I've seen Terry do anything but his job this season, where has Vidic has single handedly kept teams out when we were going through our sticky patches.

Back on ignore you go.

Talking absolute rubbish as per usual, please find where I said Hodgson should win manager of the year, I think you'll find I specific said I DON'T think he should get it, but base your entire argument around that why don't you.

As for Kompany, I've watched most of Utd's games and lots of City games, like I said, he gets caught out FAR more frequently than other players.



Vidic has gotten more bad decisions keep him on the pitch than any other CB I can think of this season, but thats NOT THE ARGUMENT HERE.

The argument is, firstly whose the best player of the season and I simply said, considering there were 4-5 better CB's let alone players in other positions him getting it is a joke, but most of these awards are. I also didn't say Kompany should get it, seriously people really need to learn to read. I said there had been several clearly better defenders out there this season....... where did I say Kompany should have won it, I didn't. I listed several defenders who deserved it more than Vidic, nothing more or less.

These are the usual ridiculous arguments on this forum, one person says they "don't think a player is the best" and every person who supports the club the player is at hears "he's the worstest player ever to live on planet earth, he banged my mum, murdered my children and literally can't kick a ball".

Vidic had a good year, he didn't have a fantastic year, he certainly wasn't the best player, its as simple as that.


What stand out thing did he do this season to make him, the best player in the league, nothing.

As for saying you've seen Terry do anything but his job, exactly what on earth are you talking about here. Everyone here, utd and non utd fans alike knows for a fact Vidic should have gotten a few more red cards and got VERY lucky, this random rubbish that Terry hasn't been doing his job is shared by...... who, based on what performances. Tightest defence in the league, with most of the country naming VDS as the best keeper in the league...... that'll be the rubbish defence then right?
 
You cant win really.Parker get a POTY award and there are crys of "WTF? West Ham went down, he was just the best of a bad bunch", Vidic gets it and its "only cos United won the title".

Its such a subjective thing really.

Not really, do you really think Vidic was the best player this season? The most oustanding player in the premier league?
 
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