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Fermi production 3rd week in Feb

In a number of the videos from CES nVidia spokespersons very clearly state a Q1 2010 release... doesn't leave them much time.

Theres more than one report of a second week in March release and I've heard mention of the same elsewhere... but... none of the information seems to be coming from particularly reliable sources - i.e. its not a stretch of the imagination that thats what they have been told to say.
 
In a number of the videos from CES nVidia spokespersons very clearly state a Q1 2010 release... doesn't leave them much time.

Theres more than one report of a second week in March release and I've heard mention of the same elsewhere... but... none of the information seems to be coming from particularly reliable sources - i.e. its not a stretch of the imagination that thats what they have been told to say.

So long as they get some cards released before 31st March then they have launched in Q1.
 
Apparently April is still in their Q1, as it's fiscal and not calendar. I won't pretend to understand what a fiscal calendar is :p
 
I thought it was already in mass production or was Kim Jong lieing for a change?

this was my understanding aswell.

and it was the nvidia pr guy that said it, whereas an awefull lot of the other info comes from not so directly connected sources, i still recon that they are meaning that the wafers are in being baked as we type.
 
Just think, in as little as 2 months we may see the 5850/5870 & 5970 at RRP!!!!

Least with these high prices/awful production its allowed many of us who were humming and harring to keep are wallets closed and wait for a better deal either fermi (if performs better) or at least a lower priced ATI card one would hope.
 
Just think, in as little as 2 months we may see the 5850/5870 & 5970 at RRP!!!!

Least with these high prices/awful production its allowed many of us who were humming and harring to keep are wallets closed and wait for a better deal either fermi (if performs better) or at least a lower priced ATI card one would hope.

Yep i agree, i've been holding off upgrading for a while now, there just haven't been any games that i've wanted to play to justify an upgrade, especially at the current prices.

There should be a few decent games later in the year (Mafia 2 is the one i am most looking forward to!) and hopefully by then we will see a nice situation of good overall supplies and at least some level of competition.

Even with all the delays Fermi still sounds interesting to me so i'm just going to wait and see. There are so many articles all claiming to have sources for performance numbers and/or yield numbers, yet most of them say different things. Maybe some of them are correct but there's really no way to tell until we have hardware.
 
Is it possible that the production in the 3rd week of February is referring to the chips going off to the board makers. I know that would make it rather tight time wise, with the A3 silicon coming back early January then nvidia giving the go ahead, 6 weeks later (i think this is the time it takes to bake) and your into February, i know it would be tight but i suppose it is possible, and it would tie in with the leaked early march release.

I think this is the most probable time-line production 3rd week of Feb means the actual cards go into production. This will keep the mid march release time line in tact.
 
I would be suprised if Fermi prices result in a reduction on ATI 5 series prices... it would need a miracle for them to be at a price/performance ratio that had any potential to impact ATI sales.
 
I would be suprised if Fermi prices result in a reduction on ATI 5 series prices... it would need a miracle for them to be at a price/performance ratio that had any potential to impact ATI sales.

I really don't know why people think a likely 380gtx part at 448 or 512 shaders, and priced at £400 or more will have an impact on AMD prices. The 5870 should come down on its own at some point to be a bit more in line with the £420 rrp of the 5970, but the 5970 rrp won't drop(and eventually some uk retailers might actually sell them without then added £100 mark up), and the 5850 is well priced at £200.

THe simple fact is people expect 4870 pricing despite the fact that almost half the yields and higher cost per wafer means they realistically cost $100 more at least, thats just life.

If GPU makes do bring out next gen directly onto 28nm, we'll probably see a return to 48XX series pricing as those will be some seriously seriously small cores. But thats how it is with manufacturing, sometimes it works well and cheap and sometimes it costs more. Though I think it will be a long time before we see as bad a process again(my guess would be TSMC's 40nm fiasco won't happen again till we start to approach limits of new process's, 3-4 nodes in the future at least).


This is all ignoring that we don't know what "Fermi" is yet, 448/512 shaders on the top part, will either parts be available or will all this production end up in decent numbers but of mostly say 320 shader parts.

They need a paper launch asap just to let us know whats going on, even then I won't believe what they promise in terms of numbers available and prices, but specs will unlikely change.


I'm hoping for a paper launch in a couple weeks once they finalise specs after extensive testing of A3 silicon, and have some final coolers and pcb's and the like all ready to go for review models. Otherwise we have another 2 months of speculation, if that date doesn't slip at all.
 
Most of the good quality cores - even those capable of 512sp will probably be going to tesla parts - so I doubt even if the 380 does give the 5970 some competition on performance that availability will be high enough to make ATI drop prices.

Even tho nVidia will probably sell the high end gaming card at a loss as its their headline card I still don't see them chopping the price enough to force ATI to lower prices on their high end cards.

Unless editor's day and some of the other closed "hands on" recently produces anything interesting - and I doubt they will have anything much to say - I don't think we will see any interesting information for around another month.
 
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