Ferrari & Red Bull Quit FOTA
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Shame as it was a powerful alliance against the FIA, doubt it will be for over spending as there is no rules or penalty for doing so. Ferrari seemed to be the main team for the spending limit so maybe they have left since others just ignore it.
Yes there was. There was a FOTA imposed limit for FOTA members, and I belive the penalty for breaking it was being kicked out of FOTA.
Jumped before they were pushed?
There were lots of rumours and claims that redbull spent more than they should havw this year, and ferrari probably thought they have had enough and if red bull aren't sticking to it then neither should they. Mclaren aren't going to let those two spend what they want either so they will have no choice but to leave. The whole thing will fall apart now.
Ferrari were very much for the spending agreement though, so they have probably left because Red Bull would make no agreement. Anyway take away Ferrari and FOTA is nothing really
Soldato
I think it's RB playing up as they want to spend as much as they like and Ferrari don't want this.
At the end of the day unless they show receipts ect for everything they spend a cap is a none starter.
I think it was Brawn who complained a few times about RB over spending i.e RB spent 800,000 euro for airo parts for one race.
At the end of the day unless they show receipts ect for everything they spend a cap is a none starter.
I think it was Brawn who complained a few times about RB over spending i.e RB spent 800,000 euro for airo parts for one race.
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That should focus the rest of the teams attention on coming to an agreement over the coming weeks, or Mr Ecclestone will be dividing and conquering again as he did in 2005.
Soldato
redbull statement http://f1enigma.wordpress.com/2011/12/02/rbr-statement/
Well if you can call it that.
you know he doesnt comment on this sort of stuff and you cant really expect him to when it could cost him his job
Ecclestone is the absolute best in the business. No one else even comes close.
The F1 teams are run by team principals with quite a lot of power and realistically, Bernie is the only guy who can get all teams working together (as has been proven over the last few decades).
Whitmarsh certainly is not Bernie.
With regards McLaren leaving FOTA - aren't they the main team who are behind FOTA? Whitmarsh is chairman so if they leave, FOTA will disintegrate fairly quickly.
I'm not so sure that Whitmarsh/McLaren will leave FOTA. They would be fools to continue, but McLaren aren't the most cunning bunch. I remember when they agreed to not use KERS, when they had the best KERS device in the entire field. A cunning team would've insisted that KERS be allowed, which would've helped them win the title in 2010. I doubt that RBR would agree to abandon their flexible bodywork or Renault willingly give up their advanced exhaust system...but anyway.
Ferrari might have made the decision to spend their way to success (their statement does not explicitly state that they are going to spend big). They have a great team, but at present they cannot "break" RBR. They need to spend big money, to "break" RBR, so this might be the plan.
Next year should be very interesting, IF Ferrari have decided to remove budgetary constraints.
i wonder what happens if FOTA go on strike.
theres no punishment for leaving fota or not beeing a member so it makes them powerless where as bernie can invent any kind of fine he wants or threaten to kick people out of f1 its no suprise hes so good when its made so easy for him
theres no punishment for leaving fota or not beeing a member so it makes them powerless where as bernie can invent any kind of fine he wants or threaten to kick people out of f1 its no suprise hes so good when its made so easy for him
Bernie runs FOM who are in charge of the commercial side of F1. Its the FIA who hand out fines and decide who can or can't race in the series, not Bernie.