Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost - 10 years service
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Soldato
Are there not some of the newer fiestas with a ‘normal’ 1.25 engine?
Or did that stop in 2017/18 with the new style?
Or did that stop in 2017/18 with the new style?
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Don
It's still based on the Fox engine and has a wet belt
Unfortunately that's the exact one she was looking at to avoid this issue, and that we realised (partly via this thread) has the exact same problem.
Man of Honour
With all this in mind I asked for a quote from Parks Ford in Elgin for my B-Max on Friday and just got it. Holy ******* ****!!!!! £3050.72 over half of which is labour. The car won't even be worth that much by then (2027). This is really shameful of Ford as it's their **** up that caused this problem and they should be paying at least half the cost rather than screwing over the owners. Needless to say I am now looking for a new (to us) car. I also fired a email off to our housing association enquiring if they allow EV charging points to be fitted and they also just got back to me saying that they do but I would have to apply for permission which is just for the purpose of a paper trail and that permission will be granted. That opens up the possibility of a EV which would be perfect for us as long as the range is decent. Now to have a look around at what I can get for £11-12k.
Just out of interest I asked if there will be a recall on the Ecoboost engines in the UK as they have done in the US and was told it's highly unlikely as the american engines are different to the UK/Europe.
Just out of interest I asked if there will be a recall on the Ecoboost engines in the UK as they have done in the US and was told it's highly unlikely as the american engines are different to the UK/Europe.
At that price it just makes sense to drive it till it blows.
Man of Honour
That would risk being stuck in the middle of nowhere plus having a car that would be worthless. It's also against every fibre of my being. I am a mechanical engineer by trade and would never let a engine get the the stage where it would destroy itself. The most logical way to proceed is to sell it now while it's still worth something and switch to something that doesn't have one of these small engines with wet belts or maybe even no engine at all (EV) which is the way I am leaning right now.
Whether the selling prices are different I don't know, but certainly if you look at the advertised prices, those cars approaching the big service and not yet having had it done do not seem to be priced down accordingly. So I think you're probably right that it's the right financial decision to sell it now while you can still accurately claim it has a full service history.
Whether that's a bit nasty to the person you're selling it to is open to opinion. But you'd presume if you sell to a dealer they already know about it.
This is exactly the M-I-L's intention. Selling it to a dealer network who is well aware of the situation. They have suggested a part-x value to her already which she is satisfied with.
Our difficulty is finding a replacement without the same issue - as per this thread. I will be going to our local Ford main dealer this week and seeing if they're willing to give me some guidance on the book prices for 'big' services for a ~2017 Fiesta, so we can gauge whether the hybrid version (which is apparently a chain rather than belt - but which has ancillaries on internal belts still) has a more palatable 10 year service cost, or whether it's exactly the same.
She really is keen on a Fiesta if we can find a way it makes sense. She may even choose to go with one anyway and suck up the 10 year service as an expected expense.
Whether that's a bit nasty to the person you're selling it to is open to opinion. But you'd presume if you sell to a dealer they already know about it.
This is exactly the M-I-L's intention. Selling it to a dealer network who is well aware of the situation. They have suggested a part-x value to her already which she is satisfied with.
Our difficulty is finding a replacement without the same issue - as per this thread. I will be going to our local Ford main dealer this week and seeing if they're willing to give me some guidance on the book prices for 'big' services for a ~2017 Fiesta, so we can gauge whether the hybrid version (which is apparently a chain rather than belt - but which has ancillaries on internal belts still) has a more palatable 10 year service cost, or whether it's exactly the same.
She really is keen on a Fiesta if we can find a way it makes sense. She may even choose to go with one anyway and suck up the 10 year service as an expected expense.
Man of Honour
I wouldn't be selling it privately and it would still have three years before the belt change is due.
Don
What was the reason for the wet belt design in the first place? It seems to me like a truely stupid idea to put something that can deteriorate inside the fluid that lubricates the engine.
Don
For efficiency and packaging reasons I believe, and originally wasn't supposed to be an issue as was thought the belt was made from a material that would last for a lifetime (i.e. generally implied longer than the 10 years it was revised to)
You intend to swap a car with a known complication for a car with a hybrid system?
Isn't there an assessment of belt available boroscope/oil-analysis ? equally if you've regularly had good oil service , no idiot remap, should be less susceptible.
from earlier threads you can find garages who expertise is belt changes and would give better rates.
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Soldato
when i was getting really ****** off about my egr on my 1.6 tdi Roomster was looking at the Skoda petrol models, the 1,0 tsi seems to have a dry Kevlar belt that is now classed as for life 150k after a technical bulletin (personally would stick to 5 or so years)
the sweet spot only imho is the post 2015 1.2 tsi engine as they dropped the camchain that was causing issues and went to a dry belt