FIFA World Cup 2014 - Round of 16 [28th June - 1st July] **spoilers**

Yeah can only echo - fantastic match, best of the tournament so far.

USA's drive and determination is admirable, and the general enthusiasm from both teams also great. Other so called "top teams" could learn a lot from this.
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I really think this tournament although it has given some of the best world cup matches for years really highlights the gulf between the top leagues in europe/CL football and world cup football. Can it be any coincidence that the non european based sides seem to care so much more than the rest of the world?

America are a better side than us and have been for years, they will win the world cup before we ever do. Rather pleasing as well how much the American public just won't tolerate diving.
 
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I really think this tournament although it has given some of the best world cup matches for years really highlights the gulf between the top leagues in europe/CL football and world cup football. Can it be any coincidence that the non european based sides seem to care so much more than the rest of the world?

America are a better side than us and have been for years, they will win the world cup before we ever do. Rather pleasing as well how much the American public just won't tolerate diving.

actually only 6 teams teams have dived more in this world cup then the USA according to an american statistics team

in a best of 5 series England v USA and I had to put my house on it, I would pick england and so would most bookies.

I think your punching yourself in the nuts too much:D
 
in a best of 5 series England v USA and I had to put my house on it, I would pick england and so would most bookies.

What a shame that world cup matches aren't the best of 5, we might have then got a goal against Costa Rica. It's results over one match that count, that's when the Americans can get up for it and we can't.
 
Was Tim Howard amazing or was Belgium's finish just a bit poor. Honestly weren't many saves any decent keeper would struggle with. Not taking anything away from his performance though.
 
Shame for the USA, thought they had a really positive attitude throughout and they played well.

Still glad Belgium went through though, looking forward to see how they get on.
 
USA played well and showed the same spirit before Klinsman was in charge, and more to the point this is the man that took Altidore instead of genuine quality upfront. He also had some actual quality and not just work rate on the bench.

It was an exciting game but USA were shocking upfront, they broke almost exactly as often as Belgium did yet created, it was like 3 shots vs 25 or something maybe towards the end of 90 minutes. They were in plenty of great positions where one pass to get someone into a shooting position and they couldn't do it. One or two better choices in the team, earlier subs, and taking an actual striker rather than Altidore could have been the difference.

Defensively they were pretty sound, the CB's were immense and Tim Howard picks himself(though as above Belgium gave him the chance to save almost every shot, Belgium's finishing was woeful, they should have scored 6+ in normal time). But offensively USA were a shambles, they got to the box excellently, Bradley all game long picking out the right ball, right weight, right direction to get the team moving on the counter attack but the final cross, the final pass into the box was woeful.

Mirallas, while good, still missed a few sitters, Mertens was a joke, De Bruyne was shocking all night long with the goal being the only time he looked composed on the ball the entire evening. Fellaini could have gone off at any stage without anyone noticing.

It was a game desperately lacking in quality for 90mins and most of the other 30 was pretty poor as well.

One of the reasons a team like USA has done so well is more about how poor Belgium, Portugal, Ghana and Germany have been than how great USA were or what a job Klinsman did. He made critical errors and inherited the team spirit.

The team spirit comes from the players more than the manager, the USA players cared more about it and were willing to run themselves into the ground, England half assed every game, different managers really won't change that. They have cushy jobs and don't care, if the manager drops all the wasters and picks the next tier of players down, you get players also in cushy jobs, also thinking they are great, who will play the same way.

England may beat USA, USA may beat England, who cares, England won't win a world cup with the current quality, attitude and ego's and USA don't have the ultimate quality to go with their attitude and willingness to work for the team rather than themselves.
 
England may beat USA, USA may beat England, who cares, England won't win a world cup with the current quality, attitude and ego's and USA don't have the ultimate quality to go with their attitude and willingness to work for the team rather than themselves.

Very true sadly. England team are spoilt, not through being in the England team, but through their current and previous salaries and the way that they get pandered to at every turn. They expect respect, whereas the other teams deserve it.
 
I have to agree with DM.

I saw this article the other day; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...500-bottle-champagne-Ocean-Club-Marbella.html

As soon as I saw it I just thought that just sums up what is wrong with the game especially in England. I am not saying that there isn't anyone else doing it but lets take Wickham who was supposed to be the next big thing. Got himself a nice wage at Sunderland and is out in Marbella living it up no doubt with plenty of other lads from other clubs around the country.

The Premier League has made kids like Wickham think they have made it before they have actually achieved anything.

Just watching the England matches, how many of them players actually wanted to be there?

How many would rather be partying in Miami or in their mansions in Dubai and Portugal etc with their families or mates "avin it large".

They all bang on about national pride and how disappointed they are, they certainly didn't play like they cared.
Costa Rica, Chile, USA and so on have rightly been receiving plaudits for showing so much national pride and showing how much the world cup meant to them by playing the way they have and getting the results they did.

England also did. It isn't the manager or the tactics. It is the players.

Physically and technically they are more than good enough to compete. Mentally they seemingly don't care.
 
National pride you say? Nah, we're not allowed to have that. Some people think national pride is actually a bad thing.
 
Very true sadly. England team are spoilt, not through being in the England team, but through their current and previous salaries and the way that they get pandered to at every turn. They expect respect, whereas the other teams deserve it.

most of the americans are on pennies to our players, the american people are all about the national team, we care more for our clubs
 
most of the americans are on pennies to our players, the american people are all about the national team, we care more for our clubs

This is true. Arsenal are far more important to me nowadays than the England squad. The EPL, FA cup and Champs league are extremely interesting, however you can't beat the hype and glory of the World Cup.

I think one difference is, the US players have not 'made it', most play in the MLS or some lower division european club bar a couple of players. The whole world is watching, put in a few good performances and you never know who may be interested and turn your life/career around! Leave everything out there and show the world what you can do.
England players, already on a decent wage and with a decent team. They flunk at the WC, no worries really :(
 
This is true. Arsenal are far more important to me nowadays than the England squad. The EPL, FA cup and Champs league are extremely interesting, however you can't beat the hype and glory of the World Cup.(

They should just get rid of the european one and have a world cup every 2 years instead. Have more groups or make the groups slightly bigger. I'd be all for a bigger world cup, scotland might then qualify if we open it up to 150 teams ;)
 
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