FIFA World Cup 2022 Group B ** spoilers ** (England, Iran, USA, Wales)

Can we stop all the silly arguments please. Although I don't mind you interrupting me from watching the game, it's just a bit pathetic.
 
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Problem for me is that Iran, US and Wales was frankly an easy group, any team which fails to score in 200 minutes against the US and Wales, isnt going to go on to win the World Cup imo , no matter what the media and pundits say.

We'd have found reasons to complain regardless of the group, squad, formation or manager. We've done it for a solid 56 years and we'll keep doing it because English supporters are the pits :cry:
 
We'd have found reasons to complain regardless of the group, squad, formation or manager. We've done it for a solid 56 years and we'll keep doing it because English supporters are the pits :cry:
I'd not be complaining if we had played 3 and won 3 :)

The fans are probably just trying to counter the media and pundits who have spent 56 years declaring that we are going to win the World Cup because we beat Kerflugistan 5-0 :D
 
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So what you actually meant by 'greatness is defined by longevity' was 'longevity is just one of many potential indicators of greatness'?
Probably better ways to say it but yes. Many great sportmen have done great things in sport, few have done that over their whole careers. Michael Owen was great for a period of time, until he wasn’t. Shearer was great over his whole career. Bale was a great player but Giggs was as good but for much longer.
 
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