Final Build Advice.

Jayke · 4 Jan 2014 at 08:35

Final advice please.

Doomedspeed · 4 Jan 2014 at 08:51

Firstly you'll have to remove that link as you can't hint at competitor pricing on this forum (read the rules), i suggest you post it as this:

Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
Be Quiet DARK ROCK 2 57.9 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler
Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste
ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Corsair 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
MSI GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card
Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Samsung SN-208DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer

Total: £1081.01

I think you've messed up somewhere along the line in your thinking..

Can i ask some questions:

What is the rig for? Gaming? Editing? CAD?

Are you wanting to upgrade this in a year or so time (add another GPU) or will it just be as is for the next few years? (not a bad thing atall)

I'd really consider buying it all from one (or two if the savings are that good) place. Firstly, any RMA/DSR is easy to deal with and you will pay less shipping. Even though that website said it toook shipping into account, trust me, it hasn't.

What is you're overall budget?

Jayke · 4 Jan 2014 at 08:56

Doomedspeed said:
Firstly you'll have to remove that link as you can't hint at competitor pricing on this forum (read the rules), i suggest you post it as this:

Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
Be Quiet DARK ROCK 2 57.9 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler
Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste
ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Corsair 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
MSI GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card
Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Samsung SN-208DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer

Total: £1081.01

I think you've messed up somewhere along the line in your thinking..

Can i ask some questions:

What is the rig for? Gaming? Editing? CAD?

Are you wanting to upgrade this in a year or so time (add another GPU) or will it just be as is for the next few years? (not a bad thing atall)

I'd really consider buying it all from one (or two if the savings are that good) place. Firstly, any RMA/DSR is easy to deal with and you will pay less shipping. Even though that website said it toook shipping into account, trust me, it hasn't.

What is you're overall budget?

I already removed the link, sorry about that.

- This rig is mainly for Gaming.
- I would not want to upgrade for a while I guess..
- Exactly, my ideal solution would be to buy it all from the same place.
- My overall budget is around £1,000.

Doomedspeed · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:12

Jayke said:
I already removed the link, sorry about that.

- This rig is mainly for Gaming.
- I would not want to upgrade for a while I guess..
- Exactly, my ideal solution would be to buy it all from the same place.
- My overall budget is around £1,000.

No worries, just want to make sure you don't get banned.

Do you mind if i point out where (i feel) you slipped up with that spec?

You had a K series (overclockable) CPU with a B Series Motherboard (non-overclockable) Very much a mis match
You dont need 16gb of RAM for gaming, 8GB is enough, the faster the RAM the better it performs too.
You went for a big PSU for no reason, unless you are running 2 GPU's 500w-600w is fine. This superflower unit is incredible (8-pack is a big fan of superflower)
The case you picked isn't the best...
For the money of the 770 4GB you may aswell get a 280X, it outperforms the 770 and has 3GB of VRAM which is more than enough. Not to mention its cheaper

This is what i'd go for:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Sapphire Radeon R9 280X Dual-X OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Card with Battlefield 4 PC Game £251.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £249.95
1 x Gigabyte Z87-HD3 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £95.99
1 x Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW) £86.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £65.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black (CC-9011023-WW) £47.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 412S CPU Cooler £28.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £17.99
Total : £975.95 (includes shipping : £11.75).

The cooler comes with thermal paste.

SiDeards73 · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:15

+1 for Doomeds basket, only thing i would change is the CPU Cooler and ONLY if you intend to overclock your CPU, if your leaving it at stock then that cpu cooler is perfect.

RJC · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:18

SiDeards73 said:
+1 for Doomeds basket, only thing i would change is the CPU Cooler and ONLY if you intend to overclock your CPU, if your leaving it at stock then that cpu cooler is perfect.

OEM CPU, no cooler supplied

Jayke · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:19

Thanks for the build, if I changed my budget to £1,100 would it be possible to get a better PSU, CPU cooler and maybe GPU?

The R9 outperforms the 770?

SiDeards73 · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:20

Yep RJC, hence the CM Hyper cooler, if the budget is £1k, theres a small bit left over to lob onto something like a K2 though

Doomedspeed · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:20

RJC said:
OEM CPU, no cooler supplied

Exactly, and paying £20 for a stock cooler... Pahhh!

SiDeards73 said:
Yep RJC, hence the CM Hyper cooler, if the budget is £1k, theres a small bit left over to lob onto something like a K2 though

Though the K2 won't fit in the 200R, so you'd have to get a bigger case which cost money money and pushes it over budget, so then you put the 412 back in and then you may aswell go back to the 200R like you had in the first place.....and Breathe......

RJC · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:20

You can't get better than the Superflower PSU.

SiDeards73 · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:21

obviously case limitations etc though, shame no Refurb H100's are available as that would be a decent upgrade

Jayke · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:22

RJC said:
You can't get better than the Superflower PSU.

I'll trust you on that one mate, moving my budget up to £1,100 is there anything else I can upgrade or should I just go with your build?

Doomedspeed · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:23

SiDeards73 said:
obviously case limitations etc though, shame no Refurb H100's are available as that would be a decent upgrade

You won't get a h100 in the 200R either.

Research my friend..

RJC · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:25

Motherboard can take SLI & Crossfire:

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI Radeon R9 290 "BF4 Edition" 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £329.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £249.95
1 x Seasonic G series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £109.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-SLI Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £97.99
1 x Plextor M5S 128GB Solid State Drive - (PX-128M5S) £71.99
1 x Toshiba 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA200) HDD £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black (CC-9011023-WW) £47.99
1 x Alpenföhn Matterhorn Pure Edition CPU Cooler £29.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £1,084.96 (includes shipping : £11.75).

Jayke · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:25

I am liking that build RJ, what frame rates would I be looking at for Arma 3/2?

SiDeards73 · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:28

Doomedspeed said:
You won't get a h100 in the 200R either.

Research my friend..

Clearly the case needs upgrading then too! haha i kid. Should be able to get the smaller refurbed Corsair in there a 120mm version?

Doomedspeed · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:28

Jayke said:
Resolution: 1440x900.

A new monitor perhaps.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Sapphire Radeon R9 280X Dual-X OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Card with Battlefield 4 PC Game £251.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £249.95
1 x Iiyama Prolite E2481HS-B1 24" Widescreen LED Super Slim Bezel Monitor - Black £149.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87-HD3 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £95.99
1 x Plextor M5S 128GB Solid State Drive - (PX-128M5S) £71.99
1 x Toshiba 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA200) HDD £59.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black (CC-9011023-WW) £47.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 412S CPU Cooler £28.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £17.99
Total : £1,105.84 (includes shipping : £12.50).

Jayke · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:29

Doomedspeed said:
A new monitor perhaps.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Sapphire Radeon R9 280X Dual-X OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Card with Battlefield 4 PC Game £251.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £249.95
1 x Iiyama Prolite E2481HS-B1 24" Widescreen LED Super Slim Bezel Monitor - Black £149.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87-HD3 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £95.99
1 x Plextor M5S 128GB Solid State Drive - (PX-128M5S) £71.99
1 x Toshiba 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA200) HDD £59.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black (CC-9011023-WW) £47.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 412S CPU Cooler £28.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £17.99
Total : £1,105.84 (includes shipping : £12.50).

I have a new monitor on the way.

So the final verdict, doom's build or RJC's build?

(Ignore the monitor)

Doomedspeed · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:34

Doomedspeed said:
YOUR BASKET
1 x Sapphire Radeon R9 280X Dual-X OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Card with Battlefield 4 PC Game £251.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £249.95
1 x Gigabyte Z87-HD3 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £95.99
1 x Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW) £86.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £65.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black (CC-9011023-WW) £47.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 412S CPU Cooler £28.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £17.99
Total : £975.95 (includes shipping : £11.75).

The cooler comes with thermal paste.

RJC said:
Motherboard can take SLI & Crossfire:

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI Radeon R9 290 "BF4 Edition" 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £329.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £249.95
1 x Seasonic G series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £109.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-SLI Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £97.99
1 x Plextor M5S 128GB Solid State Drive - (PX-128M5S) £71.99
1 x Toshiba 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA200) HDD £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black (CC-9011023-WW) £47.99
1 x Alpenföhn Matterhorn Pure Edition CPU Cooler £29.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £1,084.96 (includes shipping : £11.75).

Between these two,

They'll perform the same (really) but RJC's has the ability to add another 280x in.. Mine doesn't..

Personally i'll stand by mine but either/or really you're not making a bad purchase atall.

Jayke · 4 Jan 2014 at 09:35

Doomedspeed said:
Between these two,

They'll perform the same (really) but RJC's has the ability to add another 280x in.. Mine doesn't..

Personally i'll stand by mine but either/or really you're not making a bad purchase atall.

I think I am going to go with RJC's build, is there any changes you guys would make to it before I buy it?