Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn

Looks like I'll be sticking with Odin then :p come release I'll add everyone's in-game names and the servers they're on in the 2nd post (should make it easier for people to see who's where and where most of the forumites are gathering).

The Duty Finder's done already? Excellent :D looking forward to jumping into some group content.
 
Aye, Duty Finder looks pretty good. I think I'll still throw a few shouts out first before using it though, I much prefer the sense of community you get without tools like that.

I remember before they brought the dungeon finder into WoW and most people on the servers knew most of the regular players, once dungeon finder came out that pretty much stopped because hardly anybody talked to each other after that.

It does add a sense of community, yeah. I still remember the days of having to run around finding other players and having to wait outside the dungeons until you had enough people to summon, was great in its own way (I'm still very good friends with some of the people I met during those groups from about 8 years ago) :p while the Dungeon Finders do detract from that experience, when I'm in a hurry and unable to find others to group up with it can be a real godsend. Though with the addition of Global chat in some MMOs these days, it does feel kind of like the "bonding" is partially back as I often find myself bumping into or seeing frequenters that I end up hanging out with. Still not quite the same though :(
 
I got an E-mail today saying there's going to be a test from the 10th July to the 15th - not sure if it's for the right region though since it was written in Japanese (if the tests are even running at different times for different regions that is) .
 
You pretty much hit the nail on the head for me eggyoke :p I recently went back to Rift after a very long break (I started playing in the Beta and Early Access, then for some months following) and FFXIV is feeling very watered down when compared to what other MMOs offer outside of quests and the depth they have (but I guess you could say most have been released for longer if you don't count 1.0). I think I'm going to try and stick with it for as long as I can - I really like the game world, the classes and the lore (also it's Final Fantasy) so I hope it will develop into something even better over time. In the past I've always told myself that I'm going to stick with the next MMO rather than constantly hopping from game to game, but I often times end up getting bored or move game again because my friends left whatever game we were playing at the time. It feels like I miss out on things when I move away from an MMO and then come back a year or so later, so this time I'm really going to try to grin and bear it for as long as I can.
 
Yeah I hear ya. After thinking about it for awhile, I think it comes down to what you expect from an MMO and how you see the genre.

I'm from the old Everquest, SWG, FFXI camp and see the genre from that point of view; a real sense of danger and loss if things go wrong, a sense of time passing, communicating all the time with others to overcome something, tactically managed combat and a drawn-out pace to the flow of the game. Something as a gamer you approach with a completely different mindset than a single-player game.

FFXIV doesn't feel like an MMO to me. It's more like a controlled single-player game but with multi-player, instanced dungeons and an ever present chat-box. It's a fun little roller-coaster when you first get going, but just like SWTOR, WoW and LOTR, it comes and gets old within a couple of weeks.

Yeah, I think due to having played MMOs for the better part of 10+ years I've come to expect something on a larger scale (or at least more of a sense of being in an online ever-persistent world), or at least something that may not start off as anything particularly great but develops into a better game over time.

Whether it's because more and more MMO developers are trying to cater to the Casual/Facebook crowd more these days I don't know, but as you say there just isn't that same sense of danger or urgency. Sure I don't have as much time to play games as I used to, but I still miss that feeling of community and having to group together to tackle quests or other content. That was one of the things that drew me into MMOs, as well as the planning and control needed to successfully complete a raid or dungeon, as opposed to say a Single Player RPG where everything is intended to be solod and you can just faceroll your way through everything (I know there is strategy involved in some Single Player RPGs but it's just not at the same level of coordination).

So far it's not feeling like much of an MMO to me either - for me it's largely because the world feels so "disconnected" in that it's split up into zones, and I'm just not getting that same sense of scale or that I'm really in an online world. It could just be the early zones that feel like that though, so I'll reserve judgement for later content. As it stands I'm expecting this game to be another "roller-coaster", but I hope I get proven wrong :D

I don't know Nimdok, once a game feels boring same ole same ole, it's very hard to stick with it, and to be honest nor would I want to, that's beingmy/our problem of late finding a game that we can play for a few years, getting to a point where I don't believe that will happen again, even GW2 which was not that bad died very fast.

I still believe these games are struggling or dying is due to them not being social, think the game I'm holding out some hope for is WS.

Time will tell.

Cheers for adding us to the guild list, we will be on Moogle server.

That's the same problem I've had with most MMOs - it starts to feel stale, or I lose that enthusiasm I first had for it. I do find it very hard to go back to a game once I've lost that "spark", and I do try to revisit ones I got bored with in the past to see if I can make it further but it rarely lasts for longer than a week before I give up. I really enjoyed Guild Wars 2 and thought it would finally be a current gen MMO I could play for years on end, but once I hit 80 I just became incredibly bored with the game, and all my IRL friends quit once reaching the same point so I struggled to find reasons to stay.

As someone mentioned previously in one of these discussions (I think it was Xinn), the inclusion of LFG tools seems to be one of the main killers of that feeling of community and social interaction with other players. Nowadays it just comes down to "Oh I need to do X dungeon, instead of finding other players and manually grouping up to tackle content, I'll just put myself in the queue and be done with it and the dungeon in a few minutes". While in a sense the tools can be a godsend when I'm pressed for time and can't find any other players, I really do miss finding groups of people I can get along with and have a laugh with, do a dungeon and then carry on doing stuff together afterwards like more dungeons or just generally levelling together. It may seem like a little thing but it really does just add a whole other layer of immersion and feeling of being in an online game.

No problem :D will update it with the server details too.
 
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Those are some seriously tasty looking screenshots :D

Haven't tried the Duty Finder yet, but you described almost exactly what I imagined it would be like, sadly :/ oh well, hopefully some more friends/OcUKers will get the game and I can group with them instead of PuGs who'll be douchebags just because they can get away with it and suffer no repercussions.

Anyone planning on playing the next phase starting tomorrow?
 
ooo didnt realise it started tomorrow! I set my account up last phase but couldnt get a chance to play it so i assume i have access to this phase coming?

Ta

I assume you will, yeah :) don't think they've even officially announced the dates of the final phase yet, so I'd hazard a guess that your key/access applies to the one starting tomorrow.

Edit: Actually, may have misread the E-mail since I just skim-read and saw the dates - looks like tomorrow's the expiration date on the keys they sent out last, but according to www.arrstatus.com the Open Beta starts in 9 days so that sounds more correct.
 
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What server are people going to? Gonna have some time on it later. Moogle or keep to Odin?

I think I'm going to stick to Odin for the time being.

Did anyone get to play much over the weekend? I managed to get to level 14 by doing Fates, but wasn't able to reach my goal of 20 because all my quests were at instanced stages and I got the 90000 Error Code when trying to progress them :( so I just gave up.
 
I've got my copy free due to owning 1.0. There's nothing I have to do is there? Not been following progress that much.

Not as far as I know, from what what I've heard us 1.0 owners get to play for free until some time in September (I *think* it was the 3rd, but I could be wrong).
 
Anyone still playing this? Debating picking it up on ps3 for the ps4 upgrade in april! Mainly wondering how it runs on ps3 and is it worth starting now or do i just buy it and keep it sealed til ps4 upgrade?

Its only £10 in asda new

I still play it occasionally, trying to keep up with all the other new releases and juggling WoW at the same time. It runs well enough on the PS3 (and the controller works surprisingly well) so you might as well make a start on it on the PS3 then "upgrade" to the PS4 version when that's out.
 
I may do this as i would appreciate the upgrade more i bet! It will be my only current mmo as ive stopped playing wow and guildwars 2 though i wasnt a hardcore player of those say! Does it hold interest throughout?

I've been playing it on both PC and PS3 and the upgrade is definitely noticeable and appreciated :p still great fun on PS3 though! It was my only MMO since it launched but the lack of stuff to do at endgame was getting kinda boring and my IRL friends convinced me to start WoW again (which I did yesterday). I'd say there's enough to keep the interest going, plenty of different ways to level with some very challenging instances, and they just recently added a fair bit of content including PvP. Even if it doesn't hold your interest, it's only £10 and then at least you've got the game and know what it's like :p
 
Sounds good to me mate ill give it a go! I have just found out it supports the dualshock 4 but has to be connected with the shortass cable :(

I havent played mists yet! I stopped late cata and didnt go back but i keep seeing mists for like £7

Yeah that is kind of a downside with the DS4 :( I keep trying to find more excuses to use it, but I've had to shift my PS3 higher up on a shelf to make room for my PS4 so that cable is no longer an option... At least we've got the PS4 version to look forward to for that! It sounds like they might use the touchpad to emulate a mouse too, and the thought of being able to play it on the Vita makes me salivate (primarily so I can do crafting and whatnot elsewhere in/out the house or while lying in bed watching Netflix).

I'm liking some of the Mists changes so far (I mainly played during TBC), but it feels so basic now :\ will wait and see what the endgame is like before I decide to carry on or not.
 
I need a reason to dust off my vita so this could be a good excuse!

Yea wow got sooo hand holdy in the end, became a bit too accessible if thats even possible! I miss the days of having to read a quest log to find out where to go, now its just big marker points this way hold foward kill and come back :(

I imagine FF is mostly like this? It seems to be the way they are all going atm!

Either way i think psn is down this evening so i shant be trying it tnite :(

I can't imagine it'll be ideal in all situations, but for crafting and questing I imagine it could come in handy!

The hand holding has reached new heights with the talents sadly, or lack thereof. You just pick a role now and you immediately get all the passives and skills assigned to you, you get to pick some skills at certain tiers (like out of 3 skills every 15 levels or so, and they're shared between all specs).

FFXIV has a similar quest system where it shows you where to go on the map for the most part, but the dungeons are pretty brutal in comparison. The game is generally a lot tougher than WoW but how long it stays that way is anyone's guess :\
 
Started this last night! Works surprisingly well on ps3 and the controls are done well enough to make it very playable, just may take a few more hours to be used to them

I went for lancer and seems decent, only level 6 atm but the game feels promising :) cant wait to see it on ps4 though as visuals are the downside here but not enough to make me want to wait til april :D

Nice! :D The Lancer is really fun, just wait until you get your Jump skills! The beauty of FFXIV is that one character can be all classes just by switching weapons, so if you get bored you can just start levelling something else on the same character instead of rolling alts.
 
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