Finally.... did it....

[WiGgLr]

Newer USB flash is less robust, so there have been a lot of failures using that as boot. That's why 7.3.0 introduced ability to go internal.
I migrated to internal using one of my sata ssd, it splits to 16GB for boot partition, and using the rest of the drive as data (containing my appdata, domains and systems shares)
For Unraid 8, when they go to a Fedora base instead of slackware, they mention there will be a larger space requirement than they ask for now

 

[Ace Modder]

Will Unraid 8 allow an "upgrade" or will it be a new install and rebuild?

 

[russ9898]

Will Unraid 8 allow an "upgrade" or will it be a new install and rebuild?

I'm not sure at the minute, they have released a couple of YouTube videos in the past week or two detailing their road map I believe however I haven't got round to watching them yet.

If they successfully pull off an upgrade path, I'll be impressed.

 

[WiGgLr]

I signed up for the closed beta (link on the 2nd of those 2 videos), but there is no timeline yet.
They've gone for Fedora for a few reasons, but the main ones are:
1. Container based, so works really well
2. Fast kernel updates for hardware support and security, which will be decoupled from Unraid itself as that will become containerised
I think they mainly mean the web components there, it's not clear yet though.
The container approach might actually make migration more possible?

Edit: I also only store images on the server, and it's part of 3.2.1 backup (well actually more than that). I don't run much in docker or VM that I can't easily recover either, so if it all went wrong I would rebuild pretty quickly.

 

[russ9898]

I signed up for the closed beta (link on the 2nd of those 2 videos), but there is no timeline yet.
They've gone for Fedora for a few reasons, but the main ones are:
1. Container based, so works really well
2. Fast kernel updates for hardware support and security, which will be decoupled from Unraid itself as that will become containerised
I think they mainly mean the web components there, it's not clear yet though.
The container approach might actually make migration more possible?

All sounds very promising particularly point 2 re: kernel updates. Should allow the Unraid Devs to focus their efforts on feature integration, updates etc.

If indeed Unraid will become a container, as you say, it should hopefully offer an upgrade path in preference to rebuilding from the ground up so to speak.

 

[WiGgLr]

All sounds very promising particularly point 2 re: kernel updates. Should allow the Unraid Devs to focus their efforts on feature integration, updates etc.

If indeed Unraid will become a container, as you say, it should hopefully offer an upgrade path in preference to rebuilding from the ground up so to speak.

Some TLDW snippets for you, in a format that isn't TLDR

From the transcript:

And the reason we landed on Fedora and specifically Universal Blue, which
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is what Basite, I'm sure people are familiar with. Basite is built on this
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universal blue UK core system. The reason we landed on this is that there's a lot of really cool things about it.
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One of it, one of the things is that it's fully buildable inside of this like crazy Docker setup. So, we can do like
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we can basically build our OS in uh Docker. And then there's this other really cool component of it which is
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just that it's this fully immutable updates and it has a layering system. So, the benefit of all that is that
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eventually I would love to see us providing our community with like the
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ability to install whatever package you need to make your uh software work without having to do a bunch of
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workarounds. So, for example, like I have some weird Wi-Fi card on one of my servers and I had to build my own driver
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package and ship a plug-in file and it's in the CA store now, but it would be nice if instead of having to do that, I
could have just gone and pulled it down from Fedora and just had it available to me. And so I think universal blow will
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give us a lot of ability to do that kind of thing. So you can install driver packages and stack them on top of the
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base OS uh much more easily.

One of the reason it's going to be bigger is that one of the goals we have
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is actually that we start running we start moving towards a more standardized kernel so that our issues that our users
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are having are the same issues that other people on other Fedora dros are having. And the benefit of that is that

Another another thing we want to try to do is have a a cleaner separation
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between the DRO itself and all of the unrade magic above it.
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Yes. So that uh you know down the road hoping it's possible to just update your DRO and that's it. That will help with
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uh with people who are concerned about stability. Yeah. And and we're also hoping to be able to very quickly get people security
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updates with this new workflow. So the the main thing is we don't want anybody
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to have to worry about being behind if like another one of these major Linux CVEes comes out. There have been quite a
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few kernel vulnerabilities discovered in the last few months and uh as we've seen these come out, we've realized that the
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best thing we can do for our community is to give you guys the ability to self, you know, help yourselves be secure and
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give you more flexibility so that you're not just waiting on line tech is the the
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goal. We want our dro to be decoupled as much as we can from the management interface because at the end of the day,
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the management interface of unrade is what makes really really really special.

 

[russ9898]

Some TLDW snippets for you, in a format that isn't TLDR

Thank you for that, good snippets there. I'm looking forward to Unraid 8, feels like it should be a significant step forward in all regards.

 

[whiskycycle]

Re:SSD boot, I did this on my second box that runs as backup storage for Time Machine and Veeam... I forgot I'd moved to TPM licence as well, instead of leaving keyfile on the old USB!

Moved that install from a power hungry i7 into a Terrmaster NAS and it complained about the licence, then guided through recovery and initialising to new TPM.

The boot time on SSD is way faster, plus it's a mirrored NVMe... Was a no brainer once I got over fear of change and just did it.

 

[Ace Modder]

This just arrived , installed and it is already pre-flashed into IT mode, saves me a job!

 

[Demon]

This just arrived , installed and it is already pre-flashed into IT mode, saves me a job!

They can get very toasty, so I used one of those PCIE bay fan brackets to get a fan slotted in above it on mine.

 

[Ace Modder]

Well I'm waiting for the Jonsbo N5 to arrive, I preordered one from OCUK, and that allows me to install fans directly pointing at the card.

 

[Ace Modder]

Overall happy with the N5 case. The case has bundles of space.

A couple of things, firstly in the inside of the case, there was a small area that was not powder coated properly, but it is only inside and ot the end of the world.
Secondly, the included fans are real garbage, they are only 3 pin, and are god awfully loud. I swapped them out for some Antec Orbit fans, which are our premium fans, I didn't bother connecting up the RGB headers, as I prefer no RGB, even thought my RAM is RGB. So now I have 3 NOVA fans as intake pushign air over my HBA card and into the GPU. And then 2 orbit fans in the base pulling air through, and out the back over the HDD's and 1 orbit fan, pulls air from the CPU cooler out the rear of the case also.

Spoiler

 

[VeNT]

So many things you can start running.
Immich for photo and video backups https://immich.app/
Home assistant for automation and maybe sensors?
VPN to your home network when you're out with wireguard
That's a hell of a lot of storage, any plans?

 

[Ace Modder]

This is what I have running so far.

 

[VeNT]

mqtt for mesh networks? core or tastic?