Firefly/Serenity?

One of the best series (and accompanying movies) ever I think. It's the characters that make it. Each time I watch it I can't help but think of the potential the story/characters/setting has....
 
I loved every second of it, the characters are great and I love the setting,

Nathan Fillion miscast? No way, Mal made the show for me, (my love for kaylee had nothing to do with it honest :))
 
Why would people follow Mal, other than he's a nice guy who'd clearly die for anyone of them? what...........

he's a leader, he gets them work, money, food and not arrested. Where would any of the main crew be exactly if they weren't there.

AS for saying the actor is better at Villians because of ONE SHOW and honestly a show where multiple of the characters in the show went from good to evil to good to evil to good again. SO a show known for characters that arent' strictly speaking good all the time. Anyway he's been in countless shows and is simply a very very good actor whose good in any well scripted show he does. He was a good villian in Buffy, because the part was writen well and he acted the part well, not because he's good at being a Villian.

Tim Roth is notorious for being a Villian, yet one of his most famous roles he was a good guy cop. a good actor is a good actor is a good actor.

Very good series and a crying shame it got canceled, his latest stuff isn't impressing though. Dollhouse is barely passable, supposedly it was only this weeks(last weeks) episode where Fox gave him a lot more control of the show with it being heavily edited/scripted and controled for the first 5 which frankly, were crap. Its a good premise but the "roles" they have given to the lead character have been awful idea's to get a good episode out of and there hasn't been a single hint of great witty dialogue that Whedon is known for. The cliche'd tech geek, girl who likes him but he can't see it, the hurt female scientist, the cold head of the show, the security guy who puts on a tough front but cares for Echo really, the good guy cop, the bad guy cop none of who say anything remotely interesting.

This episode was certainly better, but we'll either see Whedon step it up a notch and make another great show over the next 4-5 eps, or its just a payday for Whedon and it will be more boring basic cliched crap.

THe weird thing is someone with the belated success of Firefly/Serenity, the huge hits of Buffy, Angel and some other stuff, it seems odd he'd agree to do Dollhouse being so heavily controlled by the network for 5 ep's. Surely he's "big" enough to get the go ahead on a series like this and take it where he wants?
 
Dollhouse is far from crap, the latest episode was right up there with the best buffy and angel episodes. It's just a pity it didn't come sooner. Not helped by Fox screwing it over again.
 
oweneades said:
Oh and Summer Glau is in it which is reason enough to watch it :p
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Quite true :D

platypus said:
Jewel Staite is much prettier.
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She's very pretty, yes - but not as nice as Summer imho ;)

Mark A said:
Only problem is Ive developed a massive crush on Summer Glau as a result :o. Nahh i just think shes a great actress and really made me care about the character River (honest).
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Funny, thats the same reasons I watched it :p

roid said:
Damn Fox for fudging it up for us ;[
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Dont think Fox has posted in this thread :p
 
I feel this needs posting :)
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Shamikebab said:
Dollhouse is far from crap, the latest episode was right up there with the best buffy and angel episodes. It's just a pity it didn't come sooner. Not helped by Fox screwing it over again.
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not really even close, its overly simple, just have a sleeper everywhere, its poor plot and nothing really new. Even the "i don't want to hurt you, i know you dont' want to hurt me" then they had a fight for a while, then they just randomly stopped, it wasn't very good at all, better for sure but not good.
the dialogue wasn't remotely sharp or witty, the characters are really, well all except the ex cop/body guard not very likeable. The FBI guy isn't really a nice guy, he's a bit of an arse rather than a likeable character. Echo, by very design isn't really a character herself. THe key thing in every previous Whedon show is incredibly strong characters you want to root for aswell as great dialogue that suits the character. Again it lacks characters and Echo's dialogue style should change weekly as her character does, which doesn't remotely lend itself to Whedon style long term likeable characters at all.
 
Jewel Staite and the woman that played the whore are so beautiful.

Jewel made the drab that was the final series of Atlantis watchable.
 
Morena Baccarin wasn't originally cast to play Inara either, it was a bit of a mix up from what i understand! Last minute application after the original chick pulled out.

Frankly, i'm glad she did.
 
DampCat said:
Morena Baccarin wasn't originally cast to play Inara either, it was a bit of a mix up from what i understand! Last minute application after the original chick pulled out.

Frankly, i'm glad she did.
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Yeah it was so late they even filmed some scenes with the original actress. I thought it was the companies decision to change actress after realising she wasn't fitted to the part or something though.
 
Shamikebab said:
Yeah it was so late they even filmed some scenes with the original actress. I thought it was the companies decision to change actress after realising she wasn't fitted to the part or something though.
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Oh! Could have been, i know she pulled out but couldnt remember why :)
 
The lady who was gunna play her (Rebecca Gayheart) wasn't thought right for the role of Inara as far as Whedon was concerned.

There was a video on youtube with one of the scenes she originally shot but I can't find it at the moment!

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She was initially hired to play the part of Inara Serra in the 2002 series Firefly, but was dropped after only one day of filming. Morena Baccarin took over the role, and none of Rebecca's scenes were used.[7]
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