Firefly/Serenity?
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I certainly wasn't commenting on the script, I was pointing out the aspects of Mal's character that Fillon made me believe via his acting. He was supposed to come across as a little cold and sometimes heartless but also displayed the other, more caring, side to Mal's character without making Mal seem confused or disfunctional. Actors rely heavily on scripts which is why I think you got confused.
Hang on hang on....so this film that has won an Oscar, Charly I believe it's called now, is the type of film you believe should be more in the public eye? Have gained a wider audience maybe? is the way decent films should have been heading? Is a sign of how Sci Fi films of worth are vastly underrated or possibly unappreciated? and yet........(you know what's coming)
YOU'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN THE DAMN THING
And yet you've obviously watched Star Wars, and all 6 films I'll wager. You sir are part of your own problem.
ere ya go:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHARLY-NEW-DV...14&_trkparms=72:1683|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
edit - There's only one left now because I'm curious even if you aren't ya great big Sci Fi fan you
Hang on hang on....so this film that has won an Oscar, Charly I believe it's called now, is the type of film you believe should be more in the public eye? Have gained a wider audience maybe? is the way decent films should have been heading? Is a sign of how Sci Fi films of worth are vastly underrated or possibly unappreciated? and yet........(you know what's coming)
YOU'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN THE DAMN THING
And yet you've obviously watched Star Wars, and all 6 films I'll wager. You sir are part of your own problem.
ere ya go:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHARLY-NEW-DV...14&_trkparms=72:1683|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
edit - There's only one left now because I'm curious even if you aren't ya great big Sci Fi fan you
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Charly? I did the book on which it was based in highschool
Correct. Does that mean you already knew it won the Oscar, or did you work it out? Yes - Cliff Robertson got Best Actor for it. For those that don't know, the book in question is "Flowers for Algernon" by Daniel Keyes. It was originally a short story, but expanded to a novel. Having read both, my feeling is that the short story is too short, but the novel is too long. The short story is probably better - certainly much more focussed.
M
edit - There's only one left now because I'm curious even if you aren't ya great big Sci Fi fan you
I'll refer you to my quote elsewhere, where I commented that I'm quite capable of telling the difference between what I like and what is good. And I'll also point out that of the six SW films I've only paid to see three of them. I will also say that I only buy DVDs of films I've already seen - and as I pointed out, Charly almost never comes around on TV - or if it does, I've not seen it advertised. But I don't have any of the SW films either.
And I'm definitely not a Sci-Fi fan, for reasons any trufan would explain. Or look up what Harlan Ellison has to say about "Sci-Fi". If you have to ask who Harlan Ellison is then you are not a science fiction fan. Which you will not is the term I almost always use.
M
I just wanted to quote this in case it's the only time we ever agree on something.
Lets get a beer and watch firefly. hetero hearts!
So you've paid to see 3 Star Wars films and yet won't fork out a few quid for a potentially great, Oscar winning, Sci Fi film? A film made around the time you suggested that films were becoming increasingly interesting and were beginning to target a more mature audience. And you wonder why they make more films like Star Wars?
Ah well, I'll let you know if it's any good. I guess you'll never know because we will more than likely have to agree to disagree.
Oh, and I've never heard of that bloke, obviously the sign of a true Sci Fi master.
DampCat, hold me.
And we probably have more in common than you think when you get past the silly little tiffs.
Is that manlove I can smell?
If you called him a "Sci-Fi" master to his face he's punch you - he's a Science Fiction author. You might need to read around a bit to understand the distinction. Possibly start with what "skiffy" is.
M
It's a crying shame it got cancelled. Just rewatching a few episodes and there are so many great stories that could have taken off. The fugitives on the run from the alliance. The preachers hidden past. The reavers. And so on.
Yup it had huge scope. Yet we get series like Lost that have no descernable storyline and seems to pull plots out of its rectum. "Ok there's a polar bear. And a dinosaur. There's some smoke, it kills you. ok none of those are true. but there is time travel. maybe. not really. ok there is."
Shepherd Book was going to be the most interesting part for me. I want him to have had a duel with the operative
Shepherd Book was going to be the most interesting part for me. I want him to have had a duel with the operative
What... do you mean to say that Meridian hasn't seen the series, and yet is providing his full critique on the script and characters?
I doubt he'd be able to reach
From the little I have bothered to read of him, he might actually try. Certainly lost the plot over a fan presenting a 2nd hand book to him at a signing. Seemed to think that 2nd hand book shops were robbing him of income...
What... do you mean to say that Meridian hasn't seen the series, and yet is providing his full critique on the script and characters?
Actually no, from what I can make out he's seen them all but only paid to see three, my guess would be the real three (4, 5 and 6). He obviously thought the first was so bad that he went on to watch the sequels and yet he hasn't seen the Oscar winning film that he mentioned. He then goes on to blame Star Wars for the decline of modern Sci Fi by dumbing down to appeal to the masses. I can therefore only conclude that he is one of "the masses" that prefers special effects or even worse simply goes along with popular opinion as to what he decides to watch. He seems unwilling to part with cash to watch Charly and would rather play it safe in case it isn't very good. Unless of course he likes Star Wars but doesn't think it's very good because he can apparently tell the difference
Nice guy.
The thing with famous people is that you often forget that they are human too and sometimes not very nice.
There are some very nasty rumours out - some people claim that there was a science fiction author who would only turn up to a convention if there was the complicit cooperation from a convention organiser to provide a dupe for him to beat up...
No names will be named, as there will be no libel here nor can I remember who it was as it was some 2nd rater that I had no interest in reading.
Actually no, from what I can make out he's seen them all but only paid to see three, my guess would be the real three (4, 5 and 6). He obviously thought the first was so bad that he went on to watch the sequels and yet he hasn't seen the Oscar winning film that he mentioned. He then goes on to blame Star Wars for the decline of modern Sci Fi by dumbing down to appeal to the masses. I can therefore only conclude that he is one of "the masses" that prefers special effects or even worse simply goes along with popular opinion as to what he decides to watch. He seems unwilling to part with cash to watch Charly and would rather play it safe in case it isn't very good. Unless of course he likes Star Wars but doesn't think it's very good because he can apparently tell the difference
1, 3 and 4 in chronological order. And now some reading for you.
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I don't think that what you're trying to tell us doesn't exist, is actually meant to exist anyway... the only character with real loyalty to Mal is Zoey, and that was formed before the series is set anyway (and, she abandons him in favour of her husband too, without a thought, which indicates more respect than sentiment).
The others are there for the money/adventure/safety of being under the radar. They all willingly leave him behind when the ship is drifting (only Zoey forces them back) and several of them show blatant disrespect at certain times. I don't think one of them shows the kind of inspired nature you describe.
There is one scene where they show a little unity in the film ("I aim to misbehave") but they're still not following him, they just share the goal.
Could you please expand on some examples that you feel demonstrate your point? As I'm just not seeing that there is anything to argue for or against.
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Strange choices, you've not seen The Empire Strikes Back then? how old are you by the way? I find it odd that you've lived your life without watching the original trilogy until after The Phantom Menace came out.
A truly fascinating read. I'd be more impressed if you could put it into your own words rather than linking to Wikipedia.
I am curious about a few things though, do you like or dislike Star Wars? If you dislike it, why did you pay to watch three of them? Why have you never taken the time to watch Charly?