Firefox 3.1 Beta 1 is pretty damn fast

mrk · 16 Oct 2008 at 23:41

tolien said:
There's some native support for Glass within Gecko 1.9.1 - look at what happens when you hit Ctrl-Tab, for example.

Yup but there's still no native Aero to skin the browser frame like with Glasser!

Will be soon though

tolien · 16 Oct 2008 at 23:42

There probably is if you dig far enough, but not by default. That's why I said some - Glassing the whole window still has some performance issues...

I raise your 88 and give you 93 though, along with 5/6 buckets coloured:

Bradley8988 · 16 Oct 2008 at 23:55

Well getting it all looking nice is too much hassle. ima stick with chrome for the mean time.

mrk · 16 Oct 2008 at 23:57

Doesn't take long if you're been customising FF for a while

How did you get 93 Tolien? I'm guessing you don't use many extensions that could interfere?

tolien · 16 Oct 2008 at 23:59

It's not that hard to install Glasser and copy and paste a couple of themes - the whole point of Firefox is the customisation (though some of that's been thrown away 2-3 and 3-3.1

)

mrk said:
How did you get 93 Tolien? I'm guessing you don't use many extensions that could interfere?

Nightlies (compare the build number in the title to what's in yours) - most of them hinged on one bug that got fixed after the freeze for b1. There's patches in review for another 2 points, and more to improve the smoothness of the test (improving DOM manipulation, which actually has some value in the real world).
Extensions have nothing to do with it (unless you're stupid enough to have a userstyle that breaks the test).

mrk · 17 Oct 2008 at 00:16

nope none that I'm aware of, will check out the patches.

tolien · 17 Oct 2008 at 00:23

There isn't much to check out - you're not down any that you should have...

mrk · 17 Oct 2008 at 00:27

Not too bothered by acid 3 test anyway

I've got 3.1b1 customised fully now with some more things and everything is rock solid.

Noel Gallagher · 17 Oct 2008 at 01:25

Nice, I notice a slight improvement

bledd · 17 Oct 2008 at 09:46

mrk said:
Btw do you guys get a tab bar even with only one tab open? mine won't go away with one tab open!

that's the first thing i turn on in ff

braveheart · 17 Oct 2008 at 16:30

yes it does fast but it still beta version so final release due by begin of 2009 which I think it coming up Jan 2009.. so I wait for final release

LeperousDust · 17 Oct 2008 at 16:59

Is it as fast as Opera yet?

mrk · 17 Oct 2008 at 18:58

Opera? what's that!

tolien · 17 Oct 2008 at 23:44

LeperousDust said:
Is it as fast as Opera yet?

I dunno, I think they're pretty close

And the relative difference:

(Sunspider, average of 5 runs, lower is better, Firefox nightly is 20081017033517, TM = javascript.options.jit.chrome and javascript.options.jit.content both true, Opera 9.60, Chrome 0.2.149.30)

Expect javascript.options.jit.content to be set to true by default by the time 3.1 ships.

dante6491 · 18 Oct 2008 at 00:03

I have a newer build from Nightly. 20081007144708. Knocks the java time down to 3875.6ms without any tweaking.

And for comparison
Chrome(0.3.154.3) is at 2053.2ms

tolien · 18 Oct 2008 at 00:04

That isn't a nightly, it's an hourly, and given the fsync() optimisations were supposed to be going in today a really bad idea (unless you've got a backup of your profile or don't mind losing it).

The Sunspider time will depend on how fast your machine is - it's the relative difference that's important...

Strife212 · 18 Oct 2008 at 00:06

Literally every release of Firefox is heralded as the fastest thing of all time, lets try this one out, responses so far seem positive.

Senture · 18 Oct 2008 at 00:06

dante6491 said:
Knocks the java time down to 3875.6ms without any tweaking.

Wow, that's quicker than my internet's latency in the evenings

tolien · 18 Oct 2008 at 00:08

Strife212 said:
Literally every release of Firefox is heralded as the fastest thing of all time, lets try this one out, responses so far seem positive!

That's what competition does - at the time Fx3 was a good bit faster than Fx2 (as well as some of the competition) and pretty much everything is faster than IE by a hell of a margin. Chrome/Safari have made some massive improvements, and Mozilla's keeping pace.

dante6491 · 18 Oct 2008 at 00:15

Thanks for helping me understand it. Just clicked the link and posted the results not sure what they meant

As to the profiles I don't really mind if I lose them, my *counts* 27 bookmarks are backed up. That is all I really miss, I know my passwords anywho.