First build after some time out

[FatFishMonster]

Hi all,

finally got the money together for my first build in 7 years.
Ended up with slightly more than antispicated (smashing the overtime!)

So ideall looking for a new build at maximum of between £600-800 for the PC.
Thinking of a 3600 and perhaps and 2060 if that fits in budget?
Will be using it for gaming.

Will also need a monitor, something around 27"? Curved? perhaps 1440p if budget allows? Sepearate budget/pot of money for this so dont need to lump that in with the PC cost.

Perhaps Mini ITX? not essential but always liked the smaller ones, and im sure the missus might make her peace with that rather than a giant fridge under the desk....

I already have a copy of Windows, so dont need to worry about that.

 

[tamzzy]

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £154.99
• 1 x MSI B450M Mortar MAX (Socket AM4) DDR4 mATX Motherboard= £89.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TLGD= £64.99
• 1 x Corsair TX650M 650W 80 Plus Gold Semi Modular Power Supply (CP-9020132-UK)= £74.99
• 1 x Kingston A400 480GB SATA 6Gb/s 2.5" Solid State Hard Drive - (SA400S37/480G)= £49.99
• 1 x Kolink Citadel Micro-ATX Case - Black= £39.95
• 1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT Gaming OC 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £329.99

Total: £816.59 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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giga 5700xt stonking value currently and will tear the 2060 a new one - performance is akin to the 2070 super (just slightly slower)
only downside is that radeon drivers aren't as polished...if you want to try and see...else get a 2060 super instead

 

[FatFishMonster]

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £154.99
• 1 x MSI B450M Mortar MAX (Socket AM4) DDR4 mATX Motherboard= £89.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TLGD= £64.99
• 1 x Corsair TX650M 650W 80 Plus Gold Semi Modular Power Supply (CP-9020132-UK)= £74.99
• 1 x Kingston A400 480GB SATA 6Gb/s 2.5" Solid State Hard Drive - (SA400S37/480G)= £49.99
• 1 x Kolink Citadel Micro-ATX Case - Black= £39.95
• 1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT Gaming OC 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £329.99

Total: £816.59 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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giga 5700xt stonking value currently and will tear the 2060 a new one
only downside is that radeon drivers aren't as polished...if you want to try and see...else get a 2060 super instead

How are the MSI boards these days?
How does the 2060 super stack up against the 5700? I had AMD gpu's way back and always had issues with the drivers.... seems the story hasnt changed!

 

[tamzzy]

How are the MSI boards these days?

msi b450 - best of the bunch
msi x570 - worst of the bunch

How does the 2060 super stack up against the 5700?

2060 super is faster than the 5700 (non-xt)

 

[FatFishMonster]

msi b450 - best of the bunch
msi x570 - worst of the bunch


2060 super is faster than the 5700 (non-xt)

What about against the XT is it worth the driver hassle?

 

[tamzzy]

in order of slowest to fastest:
2060 -> 5700 -> 2060 super -> 5700xt = 2070 -> 2070 super

 

[tamzzy]

(totally forgot that ocuk are doing a deal on the 2070 - making it cheaper than the 2060 super)

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £154.99
• 1 x MSI B450M Mortar MAX (Socket AM4) DDR4 mATX Motherboard= £89.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TLGD= £64.99
• 1 x Corsair TX650M 650W 80 Plus Gold Semi Modular Power Supply (CP-9020132-UK)= £74.99
• 1 x Kingston A400 480GB SATA 6Gb/s 2.5" Solid State Hard Drive - (SA400S37/480G)= £49.99
• 1 x Kolink Citadel Micro-ATX Case - Black= £39.95
• 1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 WindForce X2 rev3.0 8192MB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £349.99

Total: £836.59 (includes shipping: £11.70)​

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[FatFishMonster]

(totally forgot that ocuk are doing a deal on the 2070 - making it cheaper than the 2060 super)

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £154.99
• 1 x MSI B450M Mortar MAX (Socket AM4) DDR4 mATX Motherboard= £89.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TLGD= £64.99
• 1 x Corsair TX650M 650W 80 Plus Gold Semi Modular Power Supply (CP-9020132-UK)= £74.99
• 1 x Kingston A400 480GB SATA 6Gb/s 2.5" Solid State Hard Drive - (SA400S37/480G)= £49.99
• 1 x Kolink Citadel Micro-ATX Case - Black= £39.95
• 1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 WindForce X2 rev3.0 8192MB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £349.99

Total: £836.59 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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So probably worth it just for less hassle with drivers

 

[tamzzy]

So probably worth it just for less hassle with drivers

that extra 20 or so quid...probably? depends on whether you're the one that draws the short straw with radeon drivers or not.
by and large they're fine

 

[FatFishMonster]

that extra 20 or so quid...probably? depends on whether you're the one that draws the short straw with radeon drivers or not.
by and large they're fine

How about a monitor to go with it? What would you recommend?

 

[tamzzy]

How about a monitor to go with it? What would you recommend?

budget?

 

[FatFishMonster]

budget?

Around £250 give or take, its coming from a different pot of cash.

 

[tamzzy]

if you can handle the VA ghosting (i can't) then: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aoc-...een-led-backlit-gaming-monitor-mo-057-ao.html
else then consider: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aoc-...reesync-widescreen-led-monitor-mo-04m-ao.html (can be had for <£200 if you look around)

i've got the second monitor so can recommend it. review: https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-q3279vwfd8/

 

[FatFishMonster]

if you can handle the VA ghosting (i can't) then: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aoc-...een-led-backlit-gaming-monitor-mo-057-ao.html
else then consider: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aoc-...reesync-widescreen-led-monitor-mo-04m-ao.html (can be had for <£200 if you look around)

i've got the second monitor so can recommend it. review: https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-q3279vwfd8/

No i dont think I could handle ghosting, even on my tv i cant have it without a smooth picture, nearly made me send my samsung TV back because the stupid software was just trying......too hard, but after some tweaking it was okay.

 

[FatFishMonster]

if you can handle the VA ghosting (i can't) then: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aoc-...een-led-backlit-gaming-monitor-mo-057-ao.html
else then consider: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aoc-...reesync-widescreen-led-monitor-mo-04m-ao.html (can be had for <£200 if you look around)

i've got the second monitor so can recommend it. review: https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-q3279vwfd8/

Will the MSI board be ryzen 3000 ready? i know theres issues with bios's and flashback.
If i could stretch to £900 on the PC would that make much of an improvement or much of the same?
Would I better going with an M2 SSD?
Also, ill need WiFi.

 

[tamzzy]

Will the MSI board be ryzen 3000 ready? i know theres issues with bios's and flashback.

MSI b450 MAX boards are ryzen 3000 ready out of the box

If i could stretch to £900 on the PC would that make much of an improvement or much of the same?

much of the same
probably get a 1tb ssd rather than a 500gb ssd

Would I better going with an M2 SSD?

not really. see here: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...sata2-ssd-disappointing-performance.18861669/
but that being said. if you're upping the budget to £900 (and as i said above...there's a 1tb nvme m.2 ssd for £100)

Also, ill need WiFi.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/addo...b-high-gain-usb-adapter-awu680-nw-002-ad.html

 

[tamzzy]

£900 build

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £154.99
• 1 x MSI B450M Mortar MAX (Socket AM4) DDR4 mATX Motherboard= £89.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TLGD= £64.99
• 1 x Corsair TX650M 650W 80 Plus Gold Semi Modular Power Supply (CP-9020132-UK)= £74.99
• 1 x Kolink Citadel Micro-ATX Case - Black= £39.95
• 1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 WindForce X2 rev3.0 8192MB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £349.99
• 1 x WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C)= £99.95
• 1 x ADDON Wireless AC 600Mbps USB High Gain USB Adapter (AWU680)= £10.99

Total: £897.54 (includes shipping: £11.70)​

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[FatFishMonster]

£900 build

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £154.99
• 1 x MSI B450M Mortar MAX (Socket AM4) DDR4 mATX Motherboard= £89.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TLGD= £64.99
• 1 x Corsair TX650M 650W 80 Plus Gold Semi Modular Power Supply (CP-9020132-UK)= £74.99
• 1 x Kolink Citadel Micro-ATX Case - Black= £39.95
• 1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 WindForce X2 rev3.0 8192MB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £349.99
• 1 x WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C)= £99.95
• 1 x ADDON Wireless AC 600Mbps USB High Gain USB Adapter (AWU680)= £10.99

Total: £897.54 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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Ah okay, I wont go M.2 then, Ill keep the cost down for the moment. Not exactly hard to add one at a late date really.

Thanks for your keen insights

One last thing, is the white corsair vengance pro worth going for over the Vulcan's? Or is it only really if you want super flash RGB RAM?

 

[tamzzy]

Ah okay, I wont go M.2 then, Ill keep the cost down for the moment. Not exactly hard to add one at a late date really.

i have gone for m.2 in the £900 build spec it's the same price as a sata3 equivalent

the point im making is that don't spend extra on nvme m.2
but if it's the same price then go for it

 

[tamzzy]

One last thing, is the white corsair vengance pro worth going for over the Vulcan's? Or is it only really if you want super flash RGB RAM?

not worth it