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I feel like you are quoting things you have seen in articles, just because it is using all the cores does not mean it is using them efficiently above a certain number of threads and this is not the fault of the CPU but its
to do with how well optimised the programs using them are and they are mostly pretty badly optimised, which is why higher frequency still outperform more threads at lower frequency.
erm. have you not seen that OP is doing video editing!?

Software would be Lightworks and DaVinci Resolve, moving to Adobe PP soon.
as we know, DVR is GPU bound, so not worth comparing CPU for that...

let's see what PP holds:
(sauce: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...2018-Core-i7-9700K-i9-9900K-Performance-1254/)

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other PP benchies:
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All hail the 9900k ... If you've got the cash. All hail the 2700x if your in a budget :)

As with the whole hot chips, ryzen 2700x does run hot. Mine has a 360 45mm rad rapped in £60 worth of fans to keep cool at 75c .
So did my 8700k .
No matter what, flagship chips will be hot . regardless if they shrink in die size to half.. why, because some nerds like us will run more voltage and at higher clock speed - taking advantage of the shrink yet wasting it's it's saving graces , and on such a small Die, heat will struggle is dissipate out . Simple law of thermal dynamics , least they are both soldered now and ryzen does use every mm of space for their IHS :)

@tamzzy , both are in equal for Resolve, if CPU isn't fast enough to keep up with GPU , can bend up hurting .
Prob saving grace of Prem is that can get away with lower costing GPUs :/
 
it does run hot when it's overclocked silly (like 5.2ghz all core at silly voltages), yes. for a small overclock and with adequate (read, sensible) cooling, it'll be okay.


going to quote this again as it's relevant.
Yeah, the more I dig and read, the more I find that for what I want, with what OCUK have specced out, I will be fine.

Even if it does suck resource dry whilst it's rendering, that's fine, it'd be left to do its thing whilst I do other things anyway.
 
All hail the 9900k ... If you've got the cash. All hail the 2700x if your in a budget :)
just need ryzen 3000 to be released :D

@tamzzy , both are in equal for Resolve, if CPU isn't fast enough to keep up with GPU , can bend up hurting .
yep

Yeah, the more I dig and read, the more I find that for what I want, with what OCUK have specced out, I will be fine.
just post here for us to have a gander before you place the order :)
 
don't wanna step on anyone's toes, but bloody hell...could do a lot better for that sort of cash...


here's an example...with plenty of cash left to spare:
1) same 9900k with a better mobo
2) cheaper ram, but same rated speed (3000mhz), although cas latency is 1CL slower...but not much real life difference
3) much higher rated PSU (750w vs 650w)
4) better GPU (2080 vs 2070)
5) larger NVME ssd (1tb vs 500gb)
6) standard HSF for cpu cooling, reason being, although having an AIO cooler looks nice, but you have to deal with the possibility that the pump may fail at some point, or that the hose/fittings/pump may leak...whereas a lump of metal with fans won't have that issue.
7) went for a different case - subjective, so your choice, really
8) depending on how much OCUK charges for build+warranty...have enough money left over for a 2080ti!

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,324.99 (includes shipping: £14.10)
 
don't wanna step on anyone's toes, but bloody hell...could do a lot better for that sort of cash...


here's an example...with plenty of cash left to spare:
1) same 9900k with a better mobo
2) cheaper ram, but same rated speed (3000mhz), although cas latency is 1CL slower...but not much real life difference
3) much higher rated PSU (750w vs 650w)
4) better GPU (2080 vs 2070)
5) larger NVME ssd (1tb vs 500gb)
6) standard HSF for cpu cooling, reason being, although having an AIO cooler looks nice, but you have to deal with the possibility that the pump may fail at some point, or that the hose/fittings/pump may leak...whereas a lump of metal with fans won't have that issue.
7) went for a different case - subjective, so your choice, really
8) depending on how much OCUK charges for build+warranty...have enough money left over for a 2080ti!

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,324.99 (includes shipping: £14.10)
Only fundamental differences are 1) Bigger SSD! and 2) the OCUK spec covers 64GB of memory, but even doubling the memory you've listed, it still comes in cheaper, and like you say, all depends on the build/warranty cost. I'll have a nosey at the bits you've listed. Thanks for taking the time to compile, it's much appreciated.
 
Only fundamental differences are
1) same 9900k with a better mobo
2) cheaper ram, but same rated speed (3000mhz), although cas latency is 1CL slower...but not much real life difference
3) much higher rated PSU (750w vs 650w)
4) better GPU (2080 vs 2070)
5) larger NVME ssd (1tb vs 500gb)
6) standard HSF for cpu cooling, reason being, although having an AIO cooler looks nice, but you have to deal with the possibility that the pump may fail at some point, or that the hose/fittings/pump may leak...whereas a lump of metal with fans won't have that issue.
7) went for a different case - subjective, so your choice, really
8) depending on how much OCUK charges for build+warranty...have enough money left over for a 2080ti!

1) Bigger SSD!
yep

2) the OCUK spec covers 64GB of memory, but even doubling the memory you've listed,
i've also listed 64gb ram
 
Only fundamental differences are 1) Bigger SSD! and 2) the OCUK spec covers 64GB of memory, but even doubling the memory you've listed, it still comes in cheaper, and like you say, all depends on the build/warranty cost. I'll have a nosey at the bits you've listed. Thanks for taking the time to compile, it's much appreciated.

Antec P8 its a horribly restrictive case with terrible thermal results especially for the GPU you can check a review on gamersnexus youtube, tbh I am not sure Antec has made a good case since the 300 and 900 I suppose the P100 was okay but it was so heavy and not any better acoustically than a fractal design case of the same era. (I don't hate Antec I still have a 300 and I used to own a 900 as well as a mini P180 and a full size P180 I just don't think they are any good anymore)

NZXT H500 is similarly priced much higher build quality and significantly better thermals, I haven't got hands on experience with this case but I have got a NZXT Manta and its build quality is excellent.

Phanteks Enthoo pro M is nice and has better airflow, I have the special edition glass one of these myself for my workstation and I am happy with it but I feel like the back panel is a bit thin especially compared to the fractals that I have.

If you want a quiet case then fractal cases that have solid or swing door front panels like the R6 or define C are reasonably quiet they are more restrictive as they have a solid front panel but they are okay thermally
I have used many fractal cases over the years I currently still have an Define Nano S and a R4 (but I have had multiple R3 and R2xl in the past) which are very similar to the R6 and define C and I am happy with mine I use static pressure front fans rather than airflow fans in the front as I found they pull more air into the case than airflow fans and in the R4 I have used the fan profiles to turn off all my fans below 40-45deg C and I have 6 SSD's and 3HDDs in the case so there's a lot of stuff in the way as well so static pressure fans help push air through the obstruction there too I had used airflow fans before but they had to work harder to get the same temps so in turn were louder and that meant they had to go.

I have also heard that the Silverstone KL07 Kublai is an excellent semi-silent focused case with a good balance between decent airflow (especially for the GPU) and reasonably quiet and while its not typically as quiet as a fractal or be quiet! case it does have the airflow advantage.

the be quiet cases are probably the best silence oriented cases you can buy but they are expensive and more restrictive to airflow so typically run hotter

the Silverstone RL06 is probably the most airflow focused case in a similar price group so you could use it with the fans set to low you could get good thermal performance without too much noise (until the system is on full load then it will be quite loud compared to everything else listed so far)

I guess you should decide based on whether you prioritise low temperatures or silence rather then incorporate cost and looks into the decision.
 
Antec P8 its a horribly restrictive case with terrible thermal results especially for the GPU you can check a review on gamersnexus youtube, tbh I am not sure Antec has made a good case since the 300 and 900 I suppose the P100 was okay but it was so heavy and not any better acoustically than a fractal design case of the same era. (I don't hate Antec I still have a 300 and I used to own a 900 as well as a mini P180 and a full size P180 I just don't think they are any good anymore)

NZXT H500 is similarly priced much higher build quality and significantly better thermals, I haven't got hands on experience with this case but I have got a NZXT Manta and its build quality is excellent.

Phanteks Enthoo pro M is nice and has better airflow, I have the special edition glass one of these myself for my workstation and I am happy with it but I feel like the back panel is a bit thin especially compared to the fractals that I have.

sauce for OP: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3051-antec-p8-case-critical-review

hmmm...well spotted :)
given this, i'd have to agree that H500 or enthoo pro M is the better (albeit slightly more expensive - but still well within budget) choice.
 
I'd need to add an OS to the listed specs which adds a bit more. Would love to go the Ti route, but think my budget would get pushed OTT for now.

windows can be had for £20 odd :)

going ryzen 2700x with one of the best boards to allow 16 core ryzen in the future , dropping down to 32GB which should do you fine until you need to add another 32GB
RTX 2080Ti with the higher VRAM which should help a lot with 4k rendering/editing

need to manually overclock 4.1/2ghz all cores though

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,293.51 (includes shipping: £12.60)


i forgot the keyboard etc

prem pro Ryzen does a lot better then it use to

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...CC-2019-CPU-Roundup-Intel-vs-AMD-vs-Mac-1320/

but as you can see, GPU doesn't really make to much difference

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...018-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-Performance-1265/

but means you could swap out @tamzzy list for RTX 2060 or even GTX 1660ti come friday .

really all depends on what programs your using ... i9 + 2080 is the all round package​
 
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Now that's an attractive proposition, care to share, as that could be a massive win if I can tweak other components upward.

download windows media creation tool and creat ISO to USB . install without licence , then pick on up for £20 odd :)

*cough* though we always advice to buy retail copy of windows which currently retails at £150....................
 
download windows media creation tool and creat ISO to USB . install without licence , then pick on up for £20 odd :)

*cough* though we always advice to buy retail copy of windows which currently retails at £150....................
Good stuff :D TBH I am an old school kinda guy, I prefer physical media in my hands, so would likely shell out for a retail copy.
 
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