First thoughts on my X2 4800+...

[2bullish]

Why not go water if your want to overclock in future?

How many different air coolers have you bought, if like me then your half way to paying for water & you won't need to change with the socket

Well the truth is I am going water as I am going Conroe and this rig is going into my office. Was thinking of getting this Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultra+ Watercooling Kit (Socket 462/478/LGA775/754/939/940)

 

[3dfX]

Definately the best kit choice out there at the moment.

 

[Gandalf501]

lol... I was going to get an X2... until I looked into it... Did a good deal of searching. X2 isnt worth it.... yet... So i saved the money and bought a A64 3700+, which are known overclockers.

However, take a peek at these charts

Lame MP3 encoding... X2 loses to San Diego 3700+
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/cpu/charts.html?modelx=33&model1=487&model2=480&chart=178

Interesting results?

the X2 wins in WinRAR
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/cpu/charts.html?modelx=33&model1=487&model2=480&chart=175

but the San Diego beats it in CloneDVD
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/cpu/charts.html?modelx=33&model1=487&model2=480&chart=194

 

[2bullish]

Gandalf, those graphs don't tell the whole story, your comparison is flawed as LAME will only use one core. Now compare a X2 3800+ that is running at 2.0 per core and you will see that it will get spanked core for core, however, you still have another core to play with to do something else. To put that in perscective, I used to have a 3700+ SD in this system, clocked at 2.8, thottled down to 2.65.

I now have 2 2.65 cores to play with (as my 4800+ is now at 2.65 per core), so you see, I could run two instances of LAME, with no effort.

Your comparison is with a 2.2 SD against a 2.00 X2, ofcourse it will lose, its 10% light on cycles.

Try doing that with your 3700+ SD.




BTW as I'm typing this I'm trying to squeeze out some more cycles out of this rig, Im writing this as I have both cores running maximum through GO using large FTT's, plus various temp and monitoring apps, plus listening to tunes through WMP10, both cores running at 2.675.

Don't get me wrong mate, my stable 2.8 clocked SD would spank my X2 running single core benchies like SuperPi, but alas that is not the point.

 

[Gandalf501]

And what dual core apps are there?

 

[Gandalf501]

I didnt do the benchmarks.

I have other things to do than squeeze more cycles out... lol

 

[2bullish]

I didnt do the benchmarks.

I have other things to do than squeeze more cycles out... lol

"So i saved the money and bought a A64 3700+, which are known overclockers"

Okaaaaay.

 

[Gandalf501]

...are that I am not impressed.

Ok, I'll put that statement into context.

Have seen no improvement in multitasking, which I would have thought would be the biggest gain. Used to have an San Diego clocked at 2.8, that ran sweet as a nut. I cannot notice any improvement over my old chip when running more than one task. For example, I do not multitask to much anyway but, I tried running F@H when burning a disk and playing COD2 before I put in the chip, OK, the game ran a little jittery but, I've replaced the chip and the game does not run that much differently.

M8, you said you don't multitask anyway.... Your words... Shmuck.

 

[Gandalf501]

So I dont know why your being all smartbackside on my comments, when it was you who started this thread, saying your not impressed with your x2, and cant see the difference....

Whats changed? The wind?

 

[Azrael1]

Hey I did buy a new Card

X1900XT !

a lot faster then my old 7900 GT

Glad i brought one of them and not a 4800

For the price Of a 4800 I could buy a cheap conroe and a MB for it

 

[Rojin]

So I dont know why your being all smartbackside on my comments, when it was you who started this thread, saying your not impressed with your x2, and cant see the difference....

Whats changed? The wind?

Have you even read through the thread?

 

[NathanE]

lol... I was going to get an X2... until I looked into it... Did a good deal of searching. X2 isnt worth it.... yet... So i saved the money and bought a A64 3700+, which are known overclockers.

However, take a peek at these charts

Lame MP3 encoding... X2 loses to San Diego 3700+
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/cpu/charts.html?modelx=33&model1=487&model2=480&chart=178

Interesting results?

the X2 wins in WinRAR
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/cpu/charts.html?modelx=33&model1=487&model2=480&chart=175

but the San Diego beats it in CloneDVD
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/cpu/charts.html?modelx=33&model1=487&model2=480&chart=194

You haven't interpreted any of those benchmarks correctly.

The first one the benchmark times are identical, the X2 doesn't lose.

WinRAR, yay it wins. Although because WinRAR isn't multi-threaded, the only reason it won is because of load generated by background tasks.

The San Diego is higher clocked so of course it is going to beat lower clocked X2's at a single threaded task.

 

[newuser]

I bought one last week for 3d rendering and at stock it's 2.5 times faster than my OCed winnie at 2250. It also means that I can still use the PC for non cpu intensive stuff like browsing where the old one would just grind to a halt.

 

[Mr-T]

2.65?? that all?

Yo, i got my 4800 last week , played with it for a night and got up to 2.922Ghz not so stable, only stable enough to do super PI and cpu-z

Works at 2.9 solid as a rock stable, lowered it to 2.87 which enabled me to have my ram at a full 400hz and fsb at the 1000/2000 mark. i was aiming for 3ghz but my voltage is capped at 1.6V on my crappy motherboard! any 1 know a way round this???????

2.4 idle - 36C
2.4 loaded 42C
2.9 idle - 42C
2.9 loaded - 52C
my room is like 31C atm so spoze these are pretty good

i dunno why some of ya cant get it past 2.65... have a look at my settings...
something i did find strange, with my ASUS A8N32-SLI DELUX you can up the voltage by 200mV (0.2V) with 1 setting or/and up it in increments, it was a lot more stable when i used the 200mV setting and took 0.2V's off the manual vcore alteration setting. my HT multiplyer was at X4 all the time. aswell as selecting the increased voltages for most of the motherboard including a little extra on the RAM

http://www.leelambhomes.co.uk/OC.htm

 

[Jabbs]

And what dual core apps are there?

Its not so much the point what dual core apps are out, the point is he can be doing something on one core and his pc will still be fast and responsive, ie yours if you was saying encoding would grind to a hault and the pc would be laggy as hell.

I too have gone dual core just a conroe and its a pleasure the pc remains fast and responsive when doing intensive cpu stuff, for example i could run 2 instances of a avitoodvd and do them at the same time it would take a single core cpu to do 1.

 

[bilston]

Yo, i got my 4800 last week , played with it for a night and got up to 2.922Ghz not so stable, only stable enough to do super PI and cpu-z

Works at 2.9 solid as a rock stable, lowered it to 2.87 which enabled me to have my ram at a full 400hz and fsb at the 1000/2000 mark. i was aiming for 3ghz but my voltage is capped at 1.6V on my crappy motherboard! any 1 know a way round this???????

2.4 idle - 36C
2.4 loaded 42C
2.9 idle - 42C
2.9 loaded - 52C
my room is like 31C atm so spoze these are pretty good

i dunno why some of ya cant get it past 2.65... have a look at my settings...
something i did find strange, with my ASUS A8N32-SLI DELUX you can up the voltage by 200mV (0.2V) with 1 setting or/and up it in increments, it was a lot more stable when i used the 200mV setting and took 0.2V's off the manual vcore alteration setting. my HT multiplyer was at X4 all the time. aswell as selecting the increased voltages for most of the motherboard including a little extra on the RAM

http://www.leelambhomes.co.uk/OC.htm

What cooling do you have Mr-T?

Im a little worried about my temps theyre going above 60C on 1.55v after I load 2 prime95's on to a core each.

This is on water too :/

EDIT: Also, what motherboard are you using?