First time build

[nerdshack888]

Hi need 64gb because i do a lot of multitasking and i already have a case and its nzxt h7 2024 white and went through many reviews and it came down to the msi b850 edge ti because it has better lane sharing and a digital error display.

 

[nerdshack888]

ok back to the psu, i am considering a 850w, this is because i am now wondering if i bought a 1000w psu would the initial inrush current of the psu trip my fuse box(circuit breaker), its an old house with old electric so i think it could be safer with the 850w, are there any psu's with added protection to stop or minimize the inrush power when switching on the pc(my current pc i bought about 8 years ago and after 5 years i switched it on as normal as it sparked but worked and then after a few switch ons it blew and stopped working. as you can probably tell i worry about everything but in my experience things go wrong.

 

[Tetras]

are there any psu's with added protection to stop or minimize the inrush power when switching on the pc

Yes, PSUs are certainly not all equal with this. hwbusters noted in their review of the new Focus model, for example, that the inrush was very high.

 

[nerdshack888]

anyway i can find out the inrush on the Antec HCG Pro.

 

[Tetras]

anyway i can find out the inrush on the Antec HCG Pro.

If it is the same as the platform it is believed to be derived from (Seasonic Vertex PX), then the inrush is pretty high (as per the review @ hwbusters).

I believe Be Quiet's 12 M (note the non-M may be different) and the 13 M do quite well in the tests there, though these are 850 versions that were tested.

 

[nerdshack888]

it seems i am back to the drawing board with my psu options, need some reliable and safe and has low inrush will pay more if i have to, the be quiet 13 m 1000w looks like a good option but very few reviews and it mentions it has 4x 8 pin connectors but based on the photos i only has 2 sockets on the psu so could be 2 connectors per cable but cannot find any info because lack of reviews.

 

[Tetras]

it seems i am back to the drawing board with my psu options, need some reliable and safe and has low inrush will pay more if i have to, the be quiet 13 m 1000w looks like a good option but very few reviews and it mentions it has 4x 8 pin connectors but based on the photos i only has 2 sockets on the psu so could be 2 connectors per cable but cannot find any info because lack of reviews.

I wouldn't normally suggest that you buy something based on only one set of reviews, but hwbusters is the best that I'm aware of since jonnyguru.

Most other sites don't have the equipment to do the kind of tests they do and the guy that runs the site previously did most of the (recent) reviews you can find elsewhere on places like TPU and tomshardware.

Not saying that other sites are irrelevant, but just.. yeah, be aware they're probably not as thorough.

 

[nerdshack888]

hi i was considering the bequiet 13 m but i saw a number of people that had bought some version or similar and they were complaining and saying they had various failing ones so that put me off then unfortunately

 

[nerdshack888]

so my options are :
corsair rm850x/rm1000x - previously had a rm650x and it stopped working after 5 years but it seems to have a low inrush but it is very similar or the same as the nzxt version that i have seen good reviews about but have seem many people on the internet complaining that theres had various fault and also blew up.
Antec HCG Pro 850w/1000w - Only good stuff heard about this but its more expensive and probably has a high inrush.
Phanteks amp 850w/1000w - generally good comments on this forum from owners but not many reviews and inrush information is unknown.
Not sure if there are any other good options but its seriously making me rethink building a new pc, maybe i should just make do with my 8 year old pc and just buy a console.

 

[Tetras]

Phanteks amp 850w/1000w - generally good comments on this forum from owners but not many reviews and inrush information is unknown.

SPL's PSU tier list tells you the platform of these and from what I can gather on hwbusters from the NGDP models (shared platform), their inrush is alright, but note that the 850 and 1000 Phanteks models are not the same platform and have different numbers.

Not sure if there are any other good options but its seriously making me rethink building a new pc, maybe i should just make do with my 8 year old pc and just buy a console.

To be honest, if you dig too much into any piece of hardware you'll find reasons to not buy it, there's always a few bad reviews or points of contention.

 

[nerdshack888]

hi thanks for the reply again, phanteks yeah you are right i will take the 850w out of the running but keep the 1000w as a option, in terms of the worry of the build i has taken many months to get this far and i seem to be further away than ever, i have the money but need the push and confidence to build an i am struggling. i dont know if mentioned my current build but its:

amd 9800x3d
msi b850 edge ti - i choose this after many weeks and many reviews but had good reviews and less obvious problems and has less problems with lane sharing and a digital debug display but no USB4 and its about £260-£270, i originally was buying a different one for £420.
850w/1000w psu
nzxt h7 2004 - already bought this.
64gb ram - useful as my current pc has 32gb and i run out of it and i do a lot of multitasking.
9070 xt - was originally getting a 5070ti but got worried and stressed about all the problems with the connector.
samsung 990 pro 2tb
Monitor - still not decided on 4k or 1440p but will get this later.

i had other ideas of just buying a laptop as it was easier but read that all gaming laptops are noisy, was also thinking about getting a custom pc built but it would increase the cost, other options were buying a bundle(cpu,mb,ram,hd) but again it would cost and i would still need to connect it up to the case. the current pc i have is intel i5 8600k with a 1050ti gpu.

 

[nerdshack888]

right so my options are :
corsair rm850x/rm1000x/ nzxt - leaning more towards the corsairs because the nzxt have lowish inrush but the corsairs are lower.
Antec HCG Pro 850w/1000w - Only good stuff heard about this but its more expensive and probably has a high inrush, which uses the platform vertex px which when checked at hwbusters is 157.8 which seems massive.
Phanteks amp 1000w - good comments but as Tetras said from the NGDP models and according to internet that could be 85 amp, which is not great.

just got to see now if there are any other options and if not decide which corsair to get the 850w or the 1000w but pretty expensive but doesnt look from price history that they will go down much.

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[Tommy_Here]

Sorry to interject on the GPU side - give this video a watch. At times nipping at the heels of the 5080 at 1440p - in Quake 2 RTX my 9070 xt was getting same FPS as 4070 Ti - AMD have definitely closed the gap on the RT performance. At 1440p you’ll be absolutely more than fine and is the perfect resolution for this GPU + RT.

 

[no_1_dave]

Sorry to interject on the GPU side - give this video a watch. At times nipping at the heels of the 5080 at 1440p - in Quake 2 RTX my 9070 xt was getting same FPS as 4070 Ti - AMD have definitely closed the gap on the RT performance. At 1440p you’ll be absolutely more than fine and is the perfect resolution for this GPU + RT.

The heavier the RT, the bigger the performance gap
With the 9070 XT you rule yourself out of being able to try things like Half Life 2 RTX etc

If you're not bothered by that, then yea the 9070 XT is a great choice.
I personally wouldn't be able to take that route because I like trying the fully path traced game conversions. The upcoming Painkiller conversion looks awesome!!

Going back to PSU's, inrush power should not be a concern outside of countries which use 110v
You can use up to 3000w of power through 1 plug before it trips the breakers and even in an old house it should not trip just from a PC switching on. Inrush is only included on these reviews for the US userbase

 

[Tetras]

i had other ideas of just buying a laptop as it was easier but read that all gaming laptops are noisy, was also thinking about getting a custom pc built but it would increase the cost, other options were buying a bundle(cpu,mb,ram,hd) but again it would cost and i would still need to connect it up to the case. the current pc i have is intel i5 8600k with a 1050ti gpu.

Yeah, gaming laptops are always a compromise on noise/thermals and they're going to be harder to upgrade. Personally, if you have the space for a desktop, I'd never buy a laptop.

About the bundle: I guess they're easier (if pre-assembled), but you're still doing most of the work, so not gaining a huge amount of convenience there.

Your current PC: if you really wanted to give the new build up, you could just buy a new graphics card like a 9060 XT and call it a day. The 8600K still has some life in it, though the benefits would depend on the game.

Your CPU would perform similar to the 9600K in this video:

 

[nerdshack888]

thanks for the reply, i think after 8 years i need a new pc in some form,i have the money saved for it and if i wait there is nothing to say i will have the money available then, if i did get a laptop i would hook it up to a monitor and keyboard and mouse as i couldnt use it for long periods as a laptop just to used to a desktop, it just seems the easiest option, just wish someone could help me with the deciding of the parts and helping me with the build but thats not really an option, every day i seem to find videos or info on the internet that puts me off what i have the parts i have decided on,this parts deciding process is just lingering on too long and i just need to decide and get on with it.

 

[Tetras]

thanks for the reply, i think after 8 years i need a new pc in some form,i have the money saved for it and if i wait there is nothing to say i will have the money available then, if i did get a laptop i would hook it up to a monitor and keyboard and mouse as i couldnt use it for long periods as a laptop just to used to a desktop, it just seems the easiest option, just wish someone could help me with the deciding of the parts and helping me with the build but thats not really an option, every day i seem to find videos or info on the internet that puts me off what i have the parts i have decided on,this parts deciding process is just lingering on too long and i just need to decide and get on with it.

Yeah, it sounds like there's some kind of analysis paralysis here.

If it helps, your parts list sounds fine to me.

Any of those PSUs is likely to be fine. Reading on the 'net too long is enough to put you off anything really.