Fixtures for the Coming Season

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Tombstone

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Announced this morning at 9am.

I bet that one of the newly promoted teams (probably Blackpool) will start the season against one of the "big 4" so that there is a nice TV game to show. Always seems to happen.
 
It's no longer a lottery draw since there are too many forced constraints upon it, e.g. Liverpool or Everton play at home, not both. European teams might be allowed a Sunday start. They have to allow a lot of flexibility anyway for e.g. weather, overrun cup games etc. I wouldn't be surprised if they did this and then took a few liberties afterwards for Sky and ESPN.
 
Ah there we go...

Man Utd v Newcastle
Chelsea v West Brom

2 promoted ones against big teams.

Nice opening day game though between Liverpool v Arsenal. Rough start for whoever is new Liverpool manager
 
Sat - 14th Aug 10
15:00 Liverpool vs Arsenal
15:00 Blackpool vs Wigan
15:00 Bolton vs Fulham
15:00 Wolverhampton vs Stoke
15:00 Man Utd vs Newcastle
15:00 Aston Villa vs West Ham
15:00 Blackburn vs Everton
15:00 Chelsea vs West Brom
15:00 Sunderland vs Birmingham
15:00 Tottenham vs Man City

Sat - 21st Aug 10
15:00 Fulham vs Man Utd
15:00 Arsenal vs Blackpool
15:00 Man City vs Liverpool
15:00 West Brom vs Sunderland
15:00 Newcastle vs Aston Villa
15:00 West Ham vs Bolton
15:00 Birmingham vs Blackburn
15:00 Wigan vs Chelsea
15:00 Stoke vs Tottenham
15:00 Everton vs Wolverhampton

Sat - 28th Aug 10
15:00 Man Utd vs West Ham
15:00 Bolton vs Birmingham
15:00 Tottenham vs Wigan
15:00 Liverpool vs West Brom
15:00 Sunderland vs Man City
15:00 Wolverhampton vs Newcastle
15:00 Aston Villa vs Everton
15:00 Blackburn vs Arsenal
15:00 Chelsea vs Stoke
15:00 Blackpool vs Fulham
 
Man Utd v Newcastle - now that's an awesome chance for Newcastle. It could be such a nice day for them, but it also could go horribly wrong :D

Chelsea should be top after those 3 openers, look at their fixtures.. the goal difference is gonna go through the roof!
 
Tombstone said:
Announced this morning at 9am.

I bet that one of the newly promoted teams (probably Blackpool) will start the season against one of the "big 4" so that there is a nice TV game to show. Always seems to happen.
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That's because there's a ridiculously high probabilty of it happening! Strewth, I'm sure I worked this out last season because people always go "Oh fancy that, one of three teams playing one of another four teams, who'd have thought it!?" It's like an over 50% chance of happening.
 
Business end of the season for the big 3: ;)

Saturday, 23 April 2011

Bolton v Arsenal
Chelsea v West Ham
Man Utd v Everton

Saturday, 30 April 2011

Arsenal v Man Utd
Chelsea v Tottenham

Saturday, 7 May 2011

Man Utd v Chelsea
Arsenal v Aston Villa

Sunday, 22 May 2011

Everton v Chelsea
Fulham v Arsenal
Man Utd v Blackpool

I'm glad we've probably the easiest home fixture last day of the season.
 
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That's because there's a ridiculously high probabilty of it happening! Strewth, I'm sure I worked this out last season because people always go "Oh fancy that, one of three teams playing one of another four teams, who'd have thought it!?" It's like an over 50% chance of happening.
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Over 50%? Really?

I am pretty decent at Maths but got to admit its pretty astonishing that its over a 50% chance of it happening. Care to enlighten me as to the working out of it being higher than 50% chance?

EDIT : trying to figure this out quickly myself...

20 teams in the league, 3 newly promoted...

1st newly promoted one has 19 possible opponents (2 of which are the other newly promoted teams). Big 4 would then equate to a 4 in 19 chance. (roughly 20%)

Assuming that the first newly promoted didnt get a big 4 team, the 2nd newly promoted team would have 17 possible opponents (1 of which is another newly promoted team) , Big 4 would then equate to 4 in 17 chance. (roughly 25%)

Assuming that the second newly promoted also didnt get a big 4 team, the 3rd newly promoted team would have 15 possible opponents (none of which is another newly promoted team) , Big 4 would then equate to 4 in 15 chance (just under 25%)

Admittedly its early and I am doing that quickly while at work, but doesnt seem like its over 50% to me. Look forward to seeing it properly though cause over 50% is pretty good.
 
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Nice to see we have Everton on the opening day... again. We always seem to get them within the first few games.
 
Tombstone said:
Over 50%? Really?

I am pretty decent at Maths but got to admit its pretty astonishing that its over a 50% chance of it happening. Care to enlighten me as to the working out of it being higher than 50% chance?

EDIT : trying to figure this out quickly myself...

20 teams in the league, 3 newly promoted...

1st newly promoted one has 19 possible opponents (2 of which are the other newly promoted teams). Big 4 would then equate to a 4 in 19 chance. (roughly 20%)

Assuming that the first newly promoted didnt get a big 4 team, the 2nd newly promoted team would have 17 possible opponents (1 of which is another newly promoted team) , Big 4 would then equate to 4 in 17 chance. (roughly 25%)

Assuming that the second newly promoted also didnt get a big 4 team, the 3rd newly promoted team would have 15 possible opponents (none of which is another newly promoted team) , Big 4 would then equate to 4 in 15 chance (just under 25%)

Admittedly its early and I am doing that quickly while at work, but doesnt seem like its over 50% to me. Look forward to seeing it properly though cause over 50% is pretty good.
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Very very roughly:

Let's say (A) is a relegated team drawing a top 4 team, and (B) is them not (and assume for now they don't draw one another).

First relegated team draws: (A) is 20% (or so), (B) is 80%. Simple enough right?

But for the second, the 25% of (A) only matters if you get (B) for the first. so really, it's 25% of 80 (20). Which means the probably of (A) for either 1 or 2 is 40%.

Same for the third. 25% of 60% is 15.

20 + 20 + 15 = 55%

The long method of doing it involves actually working out (A1) OR (A2) OR (A3) (I think), but I can't remember offhand how to do that.
 
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Remember when we got a draw at old trafford on opening day with KK... that season seemed so promising...

Let's see how the Newcastle Utd Premier league roller coaster goes this time...

Excited and dreading it lol
 
Weebull said:
Very very roughly:

Let's say (A) is a relegated team drawing a top 4 team, and (B) is them not (and assume for now they don't draw one another).

First relegated team draws: (A) is 20% (or so), (B) is 80%. Simple enough right?

But for the second, the 25% of (A) only matters if you get (B) for the first. so really, it's 25% of 80 (20). Which means the probably of (A) for either 1 or 2 is 40%.

Same for the third. 25% of 60% is 15.

20 + 20 + 15 = 55%

The long method of doing it involves actually working out (A1) OR (A2) OR (A3) (I think), but I can't remember offhand how to do that.
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So despite the 3rd having 15 teams to pick from, 4 of which are the big 4. (4 out of 15 possibles) its still 55% chance? Even though there are 15 possible outcomes for the opponent? It makes sense to me if there are only 8 teams to pick from , 4 of which are the big 4...as that would then be 4 out of 8.

Bit like this...

G = green , r = red.

GGGGGGGGGGGRRRR

If I have to pick one of those 15, is it a 55% chance that I would pick R? Or would that require it to look like this...

GGGGGGGRRRRRRRR
 
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Meh, prefer not to play a good team on the first day, let's hope it's like the opening day in Liverpool last year
 
... second season in a row our (brentford) first game of the season is away at carlisle.

i'm sure there's got to be some sort of rule against that!
 
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