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Flagship card not good enough

Techen

Techen

Techen

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I find it hard to come to terms that AMDs flagship card can't handle Battfield 4 on ultra settings. I mean it's the best card they have and I can drop to around 40FPS at times.

I feel kind of cheated :P I mean the card is built for 4k gaming sure, Not at 60fps but am sure at some 30fps ish, But at 1440p it can drop as low as 40fps. It scares me how poor it will be at 4K.

Could it possiblely be something else hardware making it bottleneck? Old mobo or something. Not sure I understand it at all.

Card name: AMD Radeon R9 290x Series
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~4.5GHz
Current Mode: 2560 x 1440 (32 bit) (60Hz)
8GB DDR3 1866Mhz

Also another question, I saw somewhere on a forums that it would be possible to run crossfire with just a normal 290 with a 290x? Can anyone confirm this? Due to there no need to bridge them.
 
=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
BF4 is not a good game to be basing any conclusions. Its still broken for many.
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I think 40fps for a single card at Ultra settings at 2560 res is not bad already, but yea I do get what OP is saying. Because 2560 moniters have been so expensive for so many years, we never actually got to the point of them being affordable mainstream. With 4K monitors now coming in at sub-£500. I really think 2560 res monitors should all drop to £250 of below on average for pricing.

With 98%+ of people still gaming at 1920 res on lower, both Nvidia and AMD got an excuse to hold back the performance in reserve (most notably with Nvidia held back the GK110 and pushed up the GK104 as "high-end", and what should had really been a GTX680 in the first place became GTX780 a whole year later).

Graphic grunt is seriously lagging behind the advancement of resolution...
 
Marine-RX179 said:
I think 40fps for a single card at Ultra settings at 2560 res is not bad already, but yea I do get what OP is saying...because of 2560 moniters have been so expensive for so many years, we never actually got to the point of them being mainstream.

With 98%+ of people still gaming at 1920 res on lower, both Nvidia and AMD got an excuse to hold back the performance in reserve (most notably with Nvidia held back the GK110 and pushed up the GK104 as "high-end", and what should had really been a GTX680 in the first place became GTX780 a whole year later).

Graphic grunt is seriously lagging behind the advancement of resolution...
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But they claim these graphics cards to be 4K ready and that's what really annoys me. 4K ready if you enjoy 5 frames per second :P
 
old gamer said:
Could be wrong but may benefit from a 3770k cpu with hyperthreading because if im not wrong bf4 likes the extra cores
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I never saw the I7s as gaming CPUS and normally a waste of money unless you do rendering. Cause nothing else uses that many cores (Gaming wise)
 
Techen said:
But they claim these graphics cards to be 4K ready and that's what really annoys me. 4K ready if you enjoy 5 frames per second :P
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They are 4K ready, but they didn't say at what graphic detail settings, or how many of them you would need :P

I think in Gregter's 4K review, a single Titan can play games at 4K for games at medium :D
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
They are 4K ready, but they didn't say how many of them you'd need for playable frame rate for demanding games at max settings :p
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Am honestly so tempted to RMA or Sell the 290x and grab a 780TI just because of the new updated drivers and extra power.... Disappointed in AMDs slow reactions in fixing mantle, along with lack of games that support it.
 
Techen said:
Am honestly so tempted to RMA or Sell the 290x and grab a 780TI just because of the new updated drivers and extra power.... Disappointed in AMDs slow reactions in fixing mantle, along with lack of games that support it.
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Don't bother...the 780Ti ain't even that much faster (5-9% on average), it's not worth the loss you make on selling your 290x. Also in most reviews I saw, AMD still have the advantage over Nvidia cards for BF4 regardless, so the GTX780Ti would probably be only be as fast as the 290x.
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
Don't bother...the 780Ti ain't even that much faster (5-9% on average), it's not worth the loss you make on selling your 290x.
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5-9% faster plus the new drivers, Plus it can hold 60 frames per second where is the 290x has a habit of dropping it, A lot. Don't you think its not worht an extra 100 or so quid.
 
Techen said:
5-9% faster plus the new drivers, Plus it can hold 60 frames per second where is the 290x has a habit of dropping it, A lot. Don't you think its not worht an extra 100 or so quid.
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Except it's not gonna cost you just £100 extra...you have to factor the loss you make on selling the 290x as well, so you would effectively be spending £200-£250 for the "upgrade".
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Except it's not gonna cost you just £100 extra...you have to factor the loss you make on selling the 290x as well, so you would effectively be spending £200-£250 for the "upgrade".
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Would depend if I could get a RMA for it, I sometimes see large square pixels or artifacts on my second screen so who knows.
 
Techen said:
Would depend if I could get a RMA for it, I sometimes see large square pixels or artifacts on my second screen so who knows.
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You would only be able to get your full money back (less the cost of sending it back) if it was DSR, for rma you would just get replacement...

Techen said:
I don't get how its even possible for you to get 60FPS on ultra at 1600p when I cant hold 60fps on 1440p. Are you using mantle?
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He does have a 3770K which have 4 more logical cores than your i5 3570K. It could well be the issue of your drop is CPU not being able to hold up with the demanding scenes with loads of things going on.
 
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