Flat Screen Advice for Gaming - Please

Surfer said:
Are you saying that a cheaper graphics card for instance x850 GTO will perform exactly the same quality and performance as a higher spec card at resolutions of 1280x1024 and under? So it is pointless to buy a high spec graphics card if one never uses it above that resolution?

Nope. But you'd have to be running high detail and using AA and AF to start to notice a considerable difference. Even then the 'lower' card might still provide frame rates that are fine, it's just that the faster card would give even more.

I would always suggest to buy a decent screen though, as you can just keep them for many years that way.
 
Surfer said:
Are you saying that a cheaper graphics card for instance x850 GTO will perform exactly the same quality and performance as a higher spec card at resolutions of 1280x1024 and under? So it is pointless to buy a high spec graphics card if one never uses it above that resolution?

Nope – that’s not what I said at all..but I can see where I’ve mislead you.


mr huddy said:
It don’t see the point of buying or potentially upgrading a video card to a 6800GT or 7800GTX (as the TS suggests) which will quite happily run at 1600x1200, yet is beyond the capabilities of most TFTs.


All I’m saying here is that if you have a top notch graphics card, you won’t be using all of it capabilities which is a bit pointless imo. If I purchase a video card worth £350, I want to have all the options open to me and not be restricted to the monitor.


Seirrah said:
Nope. But you'd have to be running high detail and using AA and AF to start to notice a considerable difference. Even then the 'lower' card might still provide frame rates that are fine, it's just that the faster card would give even more.

I would always suggest to buy a decent screen though, as you can just keep them for many years that way.

Exactly my point - thank you :)
 
Mr Huddy said:
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All I’m saying here is that if you have a top notch graphics card, you won’t be using all of it capabilities which is a bit pointless imo. If I purchase a video card worth £350, I want to have all the options open to me and not be restricted to the monitor....

Since a TFT has a fixed resolution. You basically are.

The OP doesn't have a top notch card.
 
Well i have seem to have started a little warm debate aout VGA's and monitors !
I will check out the spec of the Samsung against the ViewSonic and SONY.
BTW i would love to replace my FX5900 Ultra if i could. Though there does seem to e a shortage of 6800GT's, and i can not afford to uy a decent TFT monitor and upgrade to PCi E and 7800GT.
Now that is a lot of money ! !
 
The VP930 you mentioned is just a great all round monitor, you can't go wrong with something like that, whether it's for games, movies, apps or web browsing. There are a few areas where LCDs are still behind CRTs, but since you want a new monitor specifically to save space it's not really worth going into that.

Only thing with the VP930 is the price. There's a few other monitors around that use a very similar panel (overdriven MVA) to the VP930 but are cheaper, like the Formac 1900 Xtreme 3 or the Belinea 10 19 20, but they're probably not quite the same quality as the Viewsonic.

Of course there are loads of other great gaming TFTs, Samsung 913N is still an excellent monitor for £200 and the Samsung 930BF is very popular at the moment for £250. Only thing with those is they are TN Film so the viewing angles are limited (the VP930, Belinea 10 19 20 and Formac are MVA panels with much better viewing angles), but they are very quick, especially the 930BF. Then there's all the new widescreen TFTs.
 
Mr Huddy said:
does anyone actually read though the existing posts :rolleyes:

Do you? :D You know the card he has. Whats the point of banging on about top notch gfx cards and TFT's? You made the point that he needs to match the TFT to the card he has ages ago. (which I was repeating deliberately). You don't need to write a novel to make the same point, over and over. You're only confusing the issue now.
 
Guy's i might as well uy the best monitor now for when i upgrade my FX5900 Ultra in the future, be it 6months or 18 months.
It will happen !

So i will gey the best i can afford now.

Fish99, what about LCD TV's ! ?
 
I am going to get the VGA AGP nvidia 7800 GS or extreme.
so with that in mind is the viewsonic still the best one to go for ?
 
The Neovo F-419 is an excellent monitor and I'd say offers better 'bang per buck' than the viewsonic. Response times are good enough for gaming and DVD's etc look great on it.

Leaves you with an extra 180 quid for a new GPU or buy something nice to please the misses - or both!
 
this thread seems to have been revived! anyone still looking for a gaming monitor might want to have a read of this article with a full comparison of all the fastest and most popular 19" TFT's available. should help you decide :)
 
Hi, i am going to get either a Viewsonic VX 912 or VX 922.
I can not see why the VX922 cost less as the response time is 2ms compared to the 8ms of the VX912 ! :confused:

So i take it that the VX922 is the better TFT than the VX912, plus the wife likes the prospect of using a TFT, i think it is a status thing over her m8's !!

Has any one got a VX922 that can comment on the picture ?

PS. my GPU is 6800GT AGP, on ASUS MoBo, 2GB Corsair XMS RAM
 
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there should be no reason why the VX912 is more expensive than the VX922 really, maybe only because it's not made any more?! The VX922 uses the updated AU Optronics TN Film panel and thanks to a heavy application of overdrive technology (which the VX912 doesn't use) offers better responsiveness
 
thanks baddass,

will the VX922 good for games and watching action DVD's ?

Also are these TFT's HD ready ! :confused:

As i have not seen any press at all about PC monitors being HD ready or compatible or are they ! ?

Is the VX 922 the best TFT I can buy for my PC ?

MoBo is ASUS A7N8X2.0 REV 2.xx Delux, 2GB corsair RAM, VGA 6800GT, 160GB Western Digital SATA 1 HD, AMD XP3000+ CPU.

Many thanks
 
Tysonator said:
thanks baddass,

will the VX922 good for games and watching action DVD's ?

it's certainly good for gaming, and arguably the fastest LCD panel you can get at the moment. As far as action movies go, the response time is low enough that there should be no issues with blurring or ghosting. However, one thing you should understand is that the VX922 uses TN Film panel technology. Read a bit more about it here if you need, but the viewing angles are quite restrictive and movie playback is a little noisier than other technologies like IPS and MVA/PVA. However, if it's just you using the screen from head on from a metre or two away (which would be sensible anyway) then it's not really a problem. Just something to be aware of.

Also are these TFT's HD ready ! :confused:

As i have not seen any press at all about PC monitors being HD ready or compatible or are they ! ?

Being HD ready can mean two things. Firstly a screen needs to have a high enough resolution to support either 720 or 1080 HD resolutions. This means the vertical resolution of the display (whether TV or desktop TFT) needs to be at least 720 pixels, or 1080 pixels. So a 17", 19" or 20" LCD monitor could only ever truly show a 720 HD signal since it's vertical resolution is either 1024 or 1050. A 1080 HD signal would be scaled down to fit the screen. A 23-24" TFT could show 1080 resolution since the vertical res is 1200.

Another aspect of being "HD ready" is often the inclusion of HDCP certification. This is basically an encryption alogorithm which is assigned to the digital interface (normally DVI, on TV's it's often just on the HDMI) to say it can play HDCP certified content. When HDCP protected media (Blu-Ray, HD-DVD etc) comes out you will need a player (DVD player, PS3 etc) which is certified, a graphics card which is certified (where using through a PC) and a display which is certified. Modern LCD TV's are certified for HDCP protection over HDMI normally. A few desktop TFT's are starting to see this as well over their DVI connections. models like the Dell 2007WFP and 2407WFP for instance as well as the forthcoming BenQ FP241W. Being this is rare, it is normally heavily advertised as part of the monitor.

So the TFT's can display HD content fine providing they have the resolution, and 17" and above all do for at least 720 content. However, if you will use HDCP protected media, you would need an HDCP certified display as well. However, HDCP is a little way off and keeps hitting hurdles. Add to this the likelihood we will see "HDCP strippers" and the likes (surely!) then it might not matter at the moment.

Is the VX 922 the best TFT I can buy for my PC ?

MoBo is ASUS A7N8X2.0 REV 2.xx Delux, 2GB corsair RAM, VGA 6800GT, 160GB Western Digital SATA 1 HD, AMD XP3000+ CPU.

Many thanks

"Best" is hard to judge really. Depends on uses, budget, requirements from functions and preference in design. Can you answer these bits?
 
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