Floating bed - rediculously cool

Van Hellseek · 4 Jul 2006 at 17:20

when i read the thread title i kind of assumed it would be some kind of hovercraft type thing

Nozzer · 4 Jul 2006 at 17:25

William said:
Last time I heard of people flipping matresses was to avoid the Nazis. :-/

I flip my highly expensive mattress every three weeks to stop rutts and stuff forming from all the sex I get with my hot girlfriend.

Bragging post in thread about a magnetic bed, I win

ElRazur · 4 Jul 2006 at 17:52

JonRohan said:
Surely sleeping on a bed like that would cause some scary medical problems.

I dont think magnetism has any known medical complications apart from if you have some metal imoplanted in you hence patients with metallic implants are not allowed an electromagnetic (i think that's the one) scan.

It is a cool idea but i can understand where poeple dont like it.

Royality · 4 Jul 2006 at 18:01

Stelly said:
wouldnt you be pretty ****** if you had a power cut?

Stelly

Only if you were on a bunk bed! :eek:

IceBus · 4 Jul 2006 at 18:07

At least you wouldn't have to tell the kids not to jump on the bed.

*Bounce* *bounce* *bounce* *CRAAASSSSSH* "AAAAAAAHHHH MUMMMY DADDY I CAN'T FEEEL MY LEGS!"

Freefaller · 4 Jul 2006 at 18:22

ElRazur said:
I dont think magnetism has any known medical complications apart from if you have some metal imoplanted in you hence patients with metallic implants are not allowed an electromagnetic (i think that's the one) scan.

Nope. There have been many studies showing that magnetic fields can cause strange cell degeneration. Certainly in kids. Obviously only in long exposure and at high levels - however it's still not the best idea having big magnetic currents pulsing through you for 8hrs every night I wouldn't have thought.

Any exposure to radiation in high quantities and for prolonged periods is not going to do anyone any good. It's just common sense.

ElRazur · 4 Jul 2006 at 18:42

Freefaller said:
Nope. There have been many studies showing that magnetic fields can cause strange cell degeneration. Certainly in kids. Obviously only in long exposure and at high levels - however it's still not the best idea having big magnetic currents pulsing through you for 8hrs every night I wouldn't have thought.

Any exposure to radiation in high quantities and for prolonged periods is not going to do anyone any good. It's just common sense.

I have always thought that the long term effect of electromagnetism is unknown? i guess things have moved on, if you dont mind point me to a link please, in the mean time i gonna google about. Thanks.

EDIT
Initial research suggests im wrong.

aardvark · 4 Jul 2006 at 21:27

Freefaller said:
Nope. There have been many studies showing that magnetic fields can cause strange cell degeneration. Certainly in kids. Obviously only in long exposure and at high levels - however it's still not the best idea having big magnetic currents pulsing through you for 8hrs every night I wouldn't have thought.

Any exposure to radiation in high quantities and for prolonged periods is not going to do anyone any good. It's just common sense.

do you have a link freefaller?

the evidence i've seen is still in the early stages so nothing definite can be said as of yet (and its all statistical, no real scientific data), but i think its only a matter of time before there is a solid link with a detrimental effect - all atoms are affected by strong magnetic fields - the effect is subtle but it doesn't take a giant leap to realise that even small efects can give unpredictable changes in a larger system.

as far as i know thats the stance that the heath and safety authority takes - there is no direct link but it would be strange if there wasn't an effect with very high electromagnetic fields, so its considered hazardous until its proven safe.

this is only for very high fields though - i often wonder if they will find a link with lower power electromanetic fields, like mobile phones (maybe they will be the cigarettes of the 21st century

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Spacky · 4 Jul 2006 at 21:33

You'd be stuffed if you had a metalic rod in your leg or something

*sorry can't come to work today am stuck to my bed*

:confused:

aardvark · 4 Jul 2006 at 21:45

Spacky said:
You'd be stuffed if you had a metalic rod in your leg or something

*sorry can't come to work today am stuck to my bed*

lol - it would have to be a pretty crappy implant if its magnetic - then again, knowing the cash straped NHS, implants could be made of iron

Spacky · 4 Jul 2006 at 21:46

aardvark said:
lol - it would have to be a pretty crappy implant if its magnetic - then again, knowing the cash straped NHS, implants could be made of iron

Not exactly a space saver though, you'd have to keep the sodding thing about 10 metres away from your PC, unless you enjoy running scandisk daily.

Freefaller · 4 Jul 2006 at 21:52

aardvark said:
do you have a link freefaller?

the evidence i've seen is still in the early stages so nothing definite can be said as of yet (and its all statistical, no real scientific data), but i think its only a matter of time before there is a solid link with a detrimental effect - all atoms are affected by strong magnetic fields - the effect is subtle but it doesn't take a giant leap to realise that even small efects can give unpredictable changes in a larger system.

as far as i know thats the stance that the heath and safety authority takes - there is no direct link but it would be strange if there wasn't an effect with very high electromagnetic fields, so its considered hazardous until its proven safe.

this is only for very high fields though - i often wonder if they will find a link with lower power electromanetic fields, like mobile phones (maybe they will be the cigarettes of the 21st century )

No links to hand I'm afraid (I do have some research on it at home though) - just remembering my university lectures (I studied Electronic Engineering) (about 4-5 years ago so I'm a little rusty). I was interested in it and there is a lot of conflicting information. Now doing engineering doesn't make you a microbiology expert of course, but the strength of some magnetic fields would be on a par with a lot of other electromagnetic radiation i,e, mobiles, and other such devices. Ok I know we're bombarded with them every day, and god knows it's probably not doing us any good - but the fact remains that in spite of our technology we're bombarded by naturally occuring radiation so i'm sure our body's have been designed to cope with up to some. However not in the quantities as a mobile phone for example. Or living under a power line - have you ever measured the flux and static levels around them? They can be rather huge IIRC. So it's sensible to make a bit of an educated guess that it's not going to do you much good.

I seem to remember a paper linking lukemia in young children to power lines - or certainly there was a propensity of cell degradation in young children in areas around high voltage lines - it was a trend at any rate.

A lot of places state it's a tenuous link - however working with satellite/radar/uWave frequencies on a daily basis I know how much interference and power devices can produce and I refuse to believe that they have no effect on your body. Even the experts don't dispute that it might have only a "neglibile" effect - but to be frank, they don't really know as there hasn't been enough research on it really.

I'm using common sense and my basic knowledge of radiation and biology - which I agree is a flawed way of doing it, but I'm quite interested in this stuff and have chatted to a lot of different people from across the board on this and despite there being mixed conclusions there is never a statement which says "there is no link" - that's good enough for me to feel that there is enough there to be worried about.

That and common sense is all I have to go on, and the few papers I have read which I dont have to hand.

A simple google does reveal a lof of info which once again shows conflicting but nonetheless pretty obvious links.

http://www.google.com/search?client...ower+lines+magnetic+cancer&btnG=Google+Search

Freefaller · 4 Jul 2006 at 21:54

ElRazur said:
I have always thought that the long term effect of electromagnetism is unknown? i guess things have moved on, if you dont mind point me to a link please, in the mean time i gonna google about. Thanks.

EDIT
Initial research suggests im wrong.

See my answer to aardvark.

Oops, I see you've done some research too - you see there is more to it than you would think.

Seriously EM waves of any kind with the right power can be devastating to our organic carcasses.

Barbie · 4 Jul 2006 at 22:28

Could you overclock it?

ElRazur · 4 Jul 2006 at 22:39

Barbie said:
Could you overclock it?

This aint cpu....or can you overclock magnetism?

aardvark · 4 Jul 2006 at 22:40

Freefaller said:
See my answer to aardvark.

Oops, I see you've done some research too - you see there is more to it than you would think. Seriously EM waves of any kind with the right power can be devastating to our organic carcasses.

i certainly do agree with you freefaller - i think any high (electro)magnetic field should be assumed to be harmful until they can be proven to be safe (or not).

i don't like the attitute of mobile companies and power companies who seem to take the opposite view - that they are safe and will be used until absolute proof that they are dangerous is found (and that might be a while)

p4radox · 4 Jul 2006 at 23:11

Barbie said:
Could you overclock it?

Lol, and accidentally repel yourself through the ceiling.