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Force Vsync on AMD?

ALXAndy

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Right. I admit I don't look at CCC much, mostly because it's disabled as it just buggered with my fan settings.

However, the good news came that EA actually did something about the 30 FPS cap in NFS : The Runs so I bought it.

Basically the game is now fitted with a Vsync option that actually works, letting the game run faster. However, I absolutely abhor running games without Vsync so I was hoping to force it on and lock it to 60hz.

I know that you can apparently lock the FPS in Afterburner, but is this just a cap or an actual vertical sync?

I want a kosher vsync and I want to be able to play it at 60FPS rather than 30.

I did download an "ahem" evaluation version (as I always do with games, they're too expensive to believe lying reviewers) and quite liked the look and feel of the game but it was just balls slow.

Help is appreciated :)
 
You can't in D3D because ATI drivers are pathetic, the CCC setting only affects OGL which is 1% of games.

You will need to download a 3rd part program (as usual) called Rivatuner and use the D3DOverrider app inside the Rivatuner folder.
 
But isn't Afterburner just a skinned version of Rivatuner?

Either way thanks for the advice I can look into that :)

Game should be here tomorrow with any luck (I like to buy hard copies).
 
Hi there,

If the game now has Vsync that works then shouldn't it automatically lock the FPS at the maximum refresh rate your monitor/graphics card can support when it is activated?

May I ask what make and model number monitor you are using?
 
Ah, I see - with the latest patch EA doesn't exactly fix the Vsync issue, but allows you to bypass the 30FPS limit if you disable Vsync, makes sense now (though really poor form on EA's part).

As for your issue, in the latest CCC in the "Gaming" tab, select "3D Application Setting". Then in the main CCC window look for the option "wait for vertical refresh" and set the slider all the way to the right (it should say "Always on"). Then Apply these settings.

This should enable Vsync from within CCC. So use FRAPS to test if it has worked out correctly in the game.
 
Yea, that is a really poor review - you can't just hand 90% scores out like candy - especially to games that don't work correctly on the PC (and this is a PC specific review for a PC enthusiast crowd).
 
mmj_uk said:
You can't in D3D because ATI drivers are pathetic, the CCC setting only affects OGL which is 1% of games.

You will need to download a 3rd part program (as usual) called Rivatuner and use the D3DOverrider app inside the Rivatuner folder.
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You cant force Vsync in CCC because of MS DX D3D guidelines and nothing more whether you like it or not does not make AMD pathetic for following it.
 
Final8y said:
You cant force Vsync in CCC because of MS DX D3D guidelines and nothing more whether you like it or not does not make AMD pathetic for following it.
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Yet NVidia add this extremely useful feature and still manage to get their drivers WHQL certified.

Why refuse to add an optional feature that 90% of your customers will find useful at some point? that's the difference between ATI/AMD and NVidia - Nvidia go out of their way to ensure that their customers aren't missing out. ATI/AMD do as little as possible and make up excuses.
 
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I have D3Doverider now. Sadly the game won't install thanks to Origin being a pile of horses crap.

After all of the issues and six week wait to get Bf3 to work I am feeling a lawsuit this time.

I'm sick and tired of paying for games and they don't even work.
 
cmndr_andi said:
As for your issue, in the latest CCC in the "Gaming" tab, select "3D Application Setting". Then in the main CCC window look for the option "wait for vertical refresh" and set the slider all the way to the right (it should say "Always on"). Then Apply these settings.

This should enable Vsync from within CCC. So use FRAPS to test if it has worked out correctly in the game.
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This setting is only for OpenGL.
 
mmj_uk said:
1)Yet NVidia add this extremely useful feature and still manage to get their drivers WHQL certified.

2)Why refuse to add an optional feature that 90% of your customers will find useful at some point? 3)that's the difference between ATI/AMD and NVidia - Nvidia go out of their way to ensure that their customers aren't missing out. ATI/AMD do as little as possible and make up excuses.
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1) Its gets WHQL certified because its a guideline and not an absolute.

2)Because its upto them if they want to follow the guidelines and not you or i no matter how useful we think it is, its up to the game makers to provide Vsync, AA ect.. first and foremost instead of the inefficient forced approach, get upset with Game makers the person who wrote the guideline or rules and not the one who chooses to follow it.

3) A matter of opinion because i have recently become aware through moans from some NV users that some NV features are only available if used injunction with other programs and not available through the NV control panel and besides Vsyinc they said AMD are up because most of AMD features do not require another program to access them and on top of that NV not having 3 outputs and not following the DX10 spec at the time so the spec got trimmed down, so yeah its all a matter of opinion.
 
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Final8y said:
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3) A matter of opinion because i have recently become aware through moans from some NV users that some NV features are only available if used injunction with other programs and not available through the NV control panel and besides Vsyinc they said AMD are up because most of AMD features do not require another program to access them
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Care to give details?
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Care to give details?
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Because i thought i would come here and make it all up.

blackened23 said:
What the heck are you so angry about? 7 series added transparency AA + SSAA? AMD has had SSAA longer than nvidia. NV had DX11 SSAA longer than AMD, yet you could NOT enable it within the driver control panel. Lets clear something up, both the nvidia 400+ and AMD 5000+ support transparency AA, SSAA, TrSS, FXAA, and MLAA. THEY ALL SUPPORT ALL OF THESE AA MODES. Here's the difference, Nvidia doesn't have the option to enable fast AA injection / SSAA within the driver, while AMD does (MLAA instead of FXAA). AMD doesn't have the option to enable transparency AA in their driver, but they have MLAA , edge AA, and adaptive AA instead.

Nvidia doesn't have a fast AA injector in their driver, AMD does. MLAA. AMD doesn't have transparency AA in their driver. AMD lets you enable SSAA in their driver, nvidia doesn't. Nvidia requires an external application to enable SSAA. AMD is more successful with override settings than nvidia CP is, most games are flagged to ignore override settings (view for yourself in nvidia inspector, most games are flagged to "treat override as use application preference"). citation: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/anti-aliasing-nvidia-geforce-amd-radeon,2868-7.html Good grief :awe:

Lets summarize:

- Both AMD and Nvidia support Transparency AA, SSAA, TrSS, FXAA, MLAA and have since the 5000 / GT 400 series, both brands support *ALL* of these AA modes!
- Some of these AA modes are not available within the driver, and require native application support or an external application, see below:
- Only AMD has SSAA or fast AA injection that can be enabled in the control panel app.
- Only nvidia has Transparency AA that can be enabled in the control panel app.
- Only AMD has Edge AA or Adaptive AA that can be enabled in the control panel app.
- AMD had SGSSAA first.
- Nvidia had DX11 SGSSAA first, although you still can't enable it within the driver.
- Nvidia does not have fast AA injection within the driver, AMD has MLAA injection in their driver.
- Nvidia requires external applications to enable SGSSAA or fast AA injection
- AMD requires an external application to enable AO or TrSS

I hope this helps, thanks and have a good day
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