FORD RACING PUMA info.

Don't think anybody can really disagree with what Fox has put.

But buying & running a FRP is never something you do with your 'sensible' head on, it's purely down to the 'heart'. Kudos & respect to those who carry on the legend! ;)
 
No problems mate , hope you have a good night ;)

The Racing puma is an awesome little car and to be honest i cant think of anything i would rather own ( which i can insure ) at this time. Straight line speed isnt what shes about. So many people on these forums are stat whores, just because it dosent have an amazing 0-60 time or a high BHP figure dosent meen its not a good car. The Ford Racing Puma is about the whole package.

Noise, It sounds fantastic. Pops and crackles when you back off ( Sounds like a proper race car :D ) Janspeed Exhaust/ Sports Cat / Manifold and Racing Cams add to this pleasure - Listen foryourself - Quick Puma Video

Looks Fantastic, A few times i have been out and random people have walked over asking me what the hell it is and who its done by. Get loads of looks and waves its fantastic.

The alcantara inside the trim makes a HUGE diffrence. Some people hate the fiesta dash but i love it. The seats look amazing and hug you in nice and tight which meens you dont slide about.
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The FRP comes with Aircon/ Leccy Mirrors / Leccy windows / Heated front+Rear windscreen.

Handling is the best thing about this car. Really feels like a go kart very direct and dosent stop gripping. The suspension system was developed by eibach for the Racing puma and boy oh boy does this show. I havent personally taken myn on track yet but i hear there pretty darn quick.

The Brakes are awesome but as some say are expensive to look after. £218 for a standard disc @ pumabuild then another £112.99 for the pads. But remember these are 4 pot Alcons so there hardly your "standard" stuff. Simon got it spot on as usual :) they dont have dirt seals so who ever changes the pads has to be carefull when removing / putting in new ones ( Making sure they give the caliper a good clean too ) As long as you look after them it shouldent be a problem. Myn oviousley were not looked after 100% and i paid the price. The pistons were pitted therefor i needed to replace them all. I went for a caliper recon which cost me £475.

Also thought i would mention the gearbox. Think this is exactley the same as in the standard puma but its fantastic. Nice and tight and very direct.

£8000 will get you a semi decent racing puma but be prepared to spend money getting it upto scratch. You could be lucky but its likley that things will need doing and unfortantley the racing puma isnt as cheap as the normal puma to run. A Service is the same as the normal puma, Pumabuild charge £147.02. But all the things which are "individual to the Racing puma are in small numbers therefor they all carry high prices"

To give you an idea ive so far had to spend over £1500 to keep myn on the road and to get it how i want it ie perfect paintwork / wheels with everything running as new i expect to spend another £1500 this year. Im an unusual case and have spent quite a bit more than my friends who own Racing Pumas. But please make sure you can afford the costs if they do happen to come knocking on your door.

If your not shy to the expensive maintenance and you feel its a good car for you then i say go for it. It will defentley be a car you remember. Owning a car where only 500 examples were made feels very special. This isnt just a "special edition" its a reworked car !

Any questions just ask mate and ill do my best

Sam
 
Coco said:
Don't think anybody can really disagree with what Fox has put.

But buying & running a FRP is never something you do with your 'sensible' head on, it's purely down to the 'heart'. Kudos & respect to those who carry on the legend! ;)

Surely though coco your cup will be a match if not better than a FRP both on the straights and round the twisties? It is also a lot cheaper to maintain. I like the looks of the FRP but i agrre with you not a sensible head choice. :)
 
the brakes are alcon 4 pots arent they? in which case they shouldnt require any maintainence except for celaning them before pushing the pistons back to change the pads.
also in a fairly light car the brakes on paper look a bit overkill so what exactly is wrong with them (lack of feel?)
 
Nice pics Sam :cool:

Got my Puma in the local bodywork garage atm.. had a dent in the bonnet since last summer which I finally got round to get pushed out. Having the bonnet and front wings resprayed all in one go :)
 
cymatty said:
Surely though coco your cup will be a match if not better than a FRP both on the straights and round the twisties? It is also a lot cheaper to maintain. I like the looks of the FRP but i agrre with you not a sensible head choice. :)

I agree with you cymatty but you cant compare a FRP to a clio 172 cup. Firstley you have the noise, the 172 sounds pants sorry to say it but Coco will agree theres no drama whatsoever. The interior of the clio is horrible. The seats and dash make you feel high up urghhh makes me shiver just thinking about it. I actually like the look of the clio but prefer the look of my FRP. The FRP has a lot more "Drama" and actually gets a second look where as the Clio is just another "clio" but i cant slate there ability as there simply amazing. I loved every second when i went out with coco at the second manchester meet.
 
cossey3 said:
the brakes are alcon 4 pots arent they? in which case they shouldnt require any maintainence except for celaning them before pushing the pistons back to change the pads.
also in a fairly light car the brakes on paper look a bit overkill so what exactly is wrong with them (lack of feel?)

Theres nothing wrong with the brakes :confused: There feel is fantastic and stop you very very well. They just need to be cared for by someone who knows what there doing. If you take it to some greasemonkey who dosent know they dont have seals im guessing he would simply remove the old pad , wack the new one straight in there pushing all that dirt / grit back into the pistons.
 
Sam said:

Oh no i agree that the FRP wins for looks and visual and noise drama, i just couldnt own a FRP knowing that people driving round in standard looking cheap to maintain etc clios are having as much fun in the twisties as me in my FRP. Especailly when that is meant to be the FRP party piece. :(

To some people however thats not the point you have an indivdual and rare sports car which looks brill, and there is nothing wrong with that, at the end of the day your happy in your purchase and so thats all that matters. :)

Nice car btw. :)
 
Thing is the Clio might perform as well but is it as fun to drive ? I cant comment as i havent driven the clio but after speaking to people who have driven FRPS / Clios and other hot hatchs they alllways say the FRP is in another leauge for driver enjoyment.

Thanks mate :)

Sam
 
I don't think anyone can argue that buying a Racing Puma is a sensible and logical idea - it's a completely daft idea.

But then, as we've seen with a few examples, you don't always want to do whats sensible. On paper, and logically, buying an FRP is silly. But there are some situations where the heart rules the head...

I guess its like me giving far more consideration than I really ought to spending £5.5k on a 6 year old Mk2 Mondeo.

Doesn't mean I can't still say that buying an FRP is silly tho, becuase is. Just like buying an ST200 is silly :)
 
mr tommo said:
Hi guys, I know sam has got one on here, and if anyone else can help then great..

Basically, if i were to spend about £8k on a FRP with about 40,000 miles on the clock, what would my other expenses be?

When will the next service be due? 10k or every year

When are the major services? Not sure on this :\

When does the cam belt need changing? 6 years so now or 50,000 miles which ever is first

How much are the servicing costs? £147 @ Pumabuild

and most importantly, how much you paying for insurance sam? - Im 18 and was looking at £2000 with admiral on my own policy fully comp with 1ncb but i got it for £1000 with NU due to a **** up :)


tom
 
Sam said:
Thing is the Clio might perform as well but is it as fun to drive ? I cant comment as i havent driven the clio but after speaking to people who have driven FRPS / Clios and other hot hatchs they alllways say the FRP is in another leauge for driver enjoyment.

Thanks mate :)

Sam

I dont know as i havent driven either, i was wondering though if anyone konws why the FRP only got an evo 4 star rating? I thought they would love that car. :confused:
 
Sam said:
I agree with you cymatty but you cant compare a FRP to a clio 172 cup. Firstley you have the noise, the 172 sounds pants sorry to say it but Coco will agree theres no drama whatsoever. The interior of the clio is horrible. The seats and dash make you feel high up urghhh makes me shiver just thinking about it. I actually like the look of the clio but prefer the look of my FRP. The FRP has a lot more "Drama" and actually gets a second look where as the Clio is just another "clio" but i cant slate there ability as there simply amazing. I loved every second when i went out with coco at the second manchester meet.

What he said /\
Much as I like the looks of mine, I'd rather be walking towards the body of a FRP.
Plus the FRP is by far the more special occasion to be in, but remember that's simply not what the Cup is about, lightness & basic driver enjoyment is, which it delivers by the bucket load.

On track or fast B-road, I'd be suprised if there was a huge amount in it, whooo knows. Granted the Cup would blow it's socks off on a QTR strip, hoooo yeah! :p hehe Stat-whore!!! :)
 
Sam said:
Theres nothing wrong with the brakes :confused: There feel is fantastic and stop you very very well. They just need to be cared for by someone who knows what there doing. If you take it to some greasemonkey who dosent know they dont have seals im guessing he would simply remove the old pad , wack the new one straight in there pushing all that dirt / grit back into the pistons.
i was only asking because of the pros/cons list above said the brakes were awful
 
Coco said:
, lightness & basic driver enjoyment is, which it delivers by the bucket load.

That was my point really, thats really the same aim as the FRP, but yet the cup costs a lot less to maintain. So really your paying for the exclusivity. :)
 
Sam said:
Thing is the Clio might perform as well but is it as fun to drive ? I cant comment as i havent driven the clio but after speaking to people who have driven FRPS / Clios and other hot hatchs they alllways say the FRP is in another leauge for driver enjoyment.
2secs, I'll ask evo magazine...

...they reckon the Cup's 0.5 star better to drive! :p
 
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