Soldato
I've never heard that before. But I've only been tacking up my nippers horse on a weekly basis for a few years.
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Former teacher found not guilty of animal abuse
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Soldato
No, you have eyes don't you? the lady has hold of the reigns and they've stopped. Despite not partaking in using any animals for any reason now, I grew up in the countryside and did actually ride them when I was a kid.
Man of Honour
I've told this story before on here.
The old Victoria Ground with Stoke playing Birmingham about 10 mounted Police came on the pitch to keep the fans away from each other.
We watched a Stoke fan run up to a Police horse and punch it in the right side of it's face so he must have watched Blazing Saddles.
The horse never reacted, it was as though a fly landed on it but the yob hit the floor and St John had to go to him
Soldato
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Why is the horse even holding its breath in the first place
Is this something horses and/or animals randomly do?
Apparently horses sometimes hold their breath when stressed or afraid...
Equestrian Movement - Identifying & Rectify the Emotional Stability of Your Horse
Is your horse stressed or happy? What can you do to make them happy and safe?
www.equestrianmovement.com
I couldn't find anything about the kicking solution, except one mention that it doesn't work which makes it sound like an 'Old School' thing:
Horse Problems: Cinchy Horse – Horse-Pros.com
horse-pros.com
However, the puffing up/blow-up is a thing, albeit not actualy holding breath as such:
Don’t Hold Your Breath: Horses Can’t Physically ‘Blow Up’ To Prevent Girth Tightening - Horse Racing News | Paulick Report
When budding equestrians are fist taught how to tack up, one of the first things they are told is to always check their horse's girth before mounting because some horses hold their breath to keep the girth or cinch a bit loose. This lack of security could invite a saddle to slip. That belief has […]
paulickreport.com
"Blowing Up" a Girthing Myth
Horses do not hold their breath to avoid girth tightening, but it is still important to take steps to ensure your tack is secure.
equusmagazine.com
Caporegime
This looks like a case of people that don't have a clue about horses getting upset by people that do have a clue about horses.
I don't have a clue about horses so would probably have initially also knee jerkingly pooped the bed in outrage.
However I have learned that like transformers, there is often more than meets the eye.
I don't have a clue about horses so would probably have initially also knee jerkingly pooped the bed in outrage.
However I have learned that like transformers, there is often more than meets the eye.
Man of Honour
and this sadly is a running theme of Paramedics getting attacked all the time.
People who have no idea what the Paramedics are trying to do.
Soldato
Well this thread just went off-road... I'll admit I'm a little confused as to how we went from horses to paramedics...
Have you been drinking this early in the morning?
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Man of Honour
It makes it a lot easier if you read what I quoted, you shouldn't be drinking this early in the morning.
Basically people not having a clue what you're doing and getting involved just in case you haven't sobered up.
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Man of Honour
Dated one, bad idea.Horse girls, not even once!
Horses are proper shifty beasts, it probably deserved a few belts tbh.
Soldato
I don't think the horse liked it because he had a long face.
Caporegime
Lock her up!
not for walloping the horse, but for being a horse girl
not for walloping the horse, but for being a horse girl
Caporegime
When this initially was reported, I thought it pretty bad, but, having spoken to a few horse owners, I was quite surprised that none thought anything of it and as has already been said, explained they are large, heavy and very powerful animals with extremely tough hides, they don't feel whips etc to any painful extent.
Although a few did say they thought kicking was a bit out of order although in context, one in particular said she'd seen her horse get kicked by another (a by far more powerful blow than any person could deliver) and the horse that was kicked didn't even flinch.
Ultimately, the jury would have heard the case facts and you'd hope have an understanding of the context at play here hence the not guilty verdict.
Although a few did say they thought kicking was a bit out of order although in context, one in particular said she'd seen her horse get kicked by another (a by far more powerful blow than any person could deliver) and the horse that was kicked didn't even flinch.
Ultimately, the jury would have heard the case facts and you'd hope have an understanding of the context at play here hence the not guilty verdict.
Soldato
ooo, arent we a little tetchy.
FWIW, I did read what you quoted... Here it is in sequence:
You quoted the following from @Efour
And replied with this.
So again, you swung from "people being upset about people not having a clue about horses" to "people attacking Paramedics and having no idea what Paramedics do" (I have paraphrased the quotes here).
Horses to Paramedics?
Man of Honour
ooo, arent we a little tetchy.
FWIW, I did read what you quoted... Here it is in sequence:
You quoted the following from @Efour
And replied with this.
So again, you swung from "people being upset about people not having a clue about horses" to "people attacking Paramedics and having no idea what Paramedics do" (I have paraphrased the quotes here).
Horses to Paramedics?
You obviously haven't sobered up yet to see that people have no idea what they are looking at and make rash judgements.
Give it until the afternoon.
If you can't see a similarity with onlookers not having a clue then I can't help you.
This will be my last reply.
(and you were the one who mentioned me drinking).
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The law is so inconsistent and contradictory it's bonkers, fine to slaughter animals which imo is the maximal level of harm you can commit, fine to raise them in cruel conditions like factory farming, fine to sexually exploit them for money in breeding pedigree animals putting them at risk of injury or death, fine to enslave them and perform some horrific medical experiments on them, but then you have people being prosecuted under the animal welfare act for stuff like this. All the above mentioned activities need to be criminalised if you are to criminalise this behaviour which as a horse owner I don't consider to reach the level of abuse, sensible jury, idiot police and CPS yet again.
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I don't know if it is right but as I mentioned before I know people who are experienced with horses who are against kicking them and asking one of them about this incident said (paraphrasing) that horses are herd animals and learn behaviour from watching other horses and people, you need to be careful not to teach them, or other horses, something is acceptable to do and/or makes it harder to train them not to kick if they are inclined to it.
I'm glad the state of abuse of animals in this country is so mild, it means we can mop up the trivial case like this, safe in the knowledge that there's no serious abuse going on.
Alternatively, the RSPCA, having become so political, spent a lot of time and resources going after this women because of who they thought she was/represented, regardless of any facts surrounding any alleged abuse that went on.
I wonder which one of the above is true......
Alternatively, the RSPCA, having become so political, spent a lot of time and resources going after this women because of who they thought she was/represented, regardless of any facts surrounding any alleged abuse that went on.
I wonder which one of the above is true......
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