Franco's tomb desecrated for political aggrandisement.

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... as Quartz says nothing new in terms of historical dilema.
The adage 'if you fail to learn from history you are doomed to repeat it' and, like the preservation of the concentration camps, doesn't keeping the original tomb facilitate learning and knowledge. ...

There's a difference between having a shrine to a genocidal dictator and the result of that dictators genocide.
 
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I was educated in the 80's/90's anyway. Did people actually learn anything in school. In my last year I used to get the bus in for 11am, sign the late book and start first break. Rest of day sit in science classrooms twiddling thumbs.

I think you may have slightly misjudged this forums core demographic. I've always had the impression its full of the types of people who would grass up slackers like you for smoking behind the bike sheds.
 
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So what is a good education to you?
Our education system is good.
Its just unfortunate some children are so stuck up their own backsides they cannot appreciate it. Along with their parents who think it's all the systems fault that little Jimmy can't excel. More like doesn't want to.
 
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I know who Franco is. What he did. So it's nothing to do with being ignorant. And I still don't care that they're digging him up and moving him. And I'm not going to pretend to be offended on anyone's behalf about it. I don't care about Franco in the slightest. I have my own things to be dealing with in the hear and now and Spain has about as much influence in my hear and now as translucent beings from the depths of the Mariana trench.
 
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because they are facists and don't care how many people he killed?

Like the communists and socialists that don't care how many people their dear leaders killed. Everyone standing pointing fingers at everyone else like their own political **** doesn't stink.
 
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EVERYTHING? I accept this may be an emotive event, but, like Brexit, opinions obviously vary. Here's a recent Spanish poll on how the polled citizens feel about the desecration:
43% supported the move, with 32.5% against and the rest undecided. Seems a sizeable percentage agree with me that he should have been left undisturbed. And a fair proportion were undecided.

By that logic, 37% voted for Brexit, 35% against, and the other 28% undecided, so we shouldn't be leaving.
 
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Doesn't clearing away the bad parts of history just give everyone a picture of everything was always and always will be happy?

Franco was a bad man, but just because he was a bad he shouldn't be erased from history.

People need to remember what people like this did and how they corrupted and broke countries and the world. Hiding them away is just bringing about the not learning from the past idea.
 
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Franco was a bad man, but just because he was a bad he shouldn't be erased from history.

This isn't about erasing him from history, just moving his remains from a national mausoleum, which has been a focal point for his far right supporters, like Chris ;) , to a private cemetery.
 
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