Freedom of the press - PLEASE HELP

VIRII · 24 Apr 2007 at 18:45

silversurfer said:
The press shouldnt have to shut up. The whole point is it helps no one if they cant freely report events in the area without fear of reprisal by either side or bias.

Its possible to easily under estimate the amount of good done by those who just report events as they happen. If a government or group is allowed to carry out acts without knowledge by the greater world then they are less likely to be just

I seem to recall a lot of reports about Terry Waite (sp?) Did those reports help him get released in some way?

Incidentally what does the text in your sig mean?

Mr Nice · 24 Apr 2007 at 18:46

VIRII said:
Incidentally what does the text in your sig mean?

Death to the infidels

Zip · 24 Apr 2007 at 18:48

silversurfer said:
publicity dude, as per amnesty international , etc

That wont work.

The more publicity they get and they wont get money for him they will kill him to make a statement wehne the wholke worlds looking.

Those buttons if it is for a publicity thing is basicly signing his death certifcate

silversurfer · 24 Apr 2007 at 18:49

VIRII said:
I seem to recall a lot of reports about Terry Waite (sp?) Did those reports help him get released in some way?

Incidentally what does the text in your sig mean?

Terry waite was locked up for years. He was a negotiator. But he lived to tell the tale at least?

Google does arabic translation now, its linked to this topic.

I hope the BBC is keeping this guy on full pay while he is detained..

Zip your saying amnesty internationals work has never worked ?

VIRII · 24 Apr 2007 at 18:49

Shackley said:
To those of you who have added the button . . . my thanks; you are good guys, you certainly have my respect for your humanity.

Wow, I'm going to have to make me a website now.

VIRII · 24 Apr 2007 at 18:51

@if ®afiq said:
That goes against the "terrorist sympathiser" image that people seem to have of you.

Nope as the people are apparently "criminals". Shackley scourge of criminals and terrorist sympathiser

Hugogo · 24 Apr 2007 at 18:54

The way in which the press is rallying around this guy is amazing. A fantastic effort on their part.

However i have some issues Why can't they do this for every person that is held hostage? If they set the precedent for their own its an abuse of their position not to help all in this manner.

Please dont get me wrong this guy needs to be freed asap but i just feel more could be done for any of the people currently held.

Jofujofu · 24 Apr 2007 at 18:55

Jimmi said:
Sorry but i have no sympathy for people who put themselves in this situations to start with, they know the risks and then we have all this "news" and time on it when it goes pete tong.

Its the same when people go on about soldiers who have lost their lives, they new the conditions when they signed up for army training.

I have lots of sympathy for you if you genuinely feel like that.

Paul

VIRII · 24 Apr 2007 at 18:56

silversurfer said:
Google does arabic translation now, its linked to this topic.

Cool, I did not know that. Is this feature very new?

silversurfer · 24 Apr 2007 at 19:14

First time Ive seen it was recently. Seems to work well.

Terry Waite is on channel five now..

Sleepy · 24 Apr 2007 at 20:21

VIRII said:
Cool, I did not know that. Is this feature very new?

Yes.

Chronos-X · 24 Apr 2007 at 20:27

Hugogo said:
The way in which the press is rallying around this guy is amazing. A fantastic effort on their part.

However i have some issues Why can't they do this for every person that is held hostage? If they set the precedent for their own its an abuse of their position not to help all in this manner..

Because they're members of his industry, his union, and in many cases, his colleagues. Next!

In other words, what are the Bigley family doing for this guy?

Pretty simple really, there's no injustice here.

Hugogo · 24 Apr 2007 at 20:35

Chronos-X said:
Because they're members of his industry, his union, and in many cases, his colleagues. Next!

In other words, what are the Bigley family doing for this guy?

Pretty simple really, there's no injustice here.

Its not an injustice its just that for every family who looses someone to this the media should have the same course of action.

SexyGreyFox · 24 Apr 2007 at 20:36

Wyvern971 said:
At the end of the day without people like this you'd have the majority of the population sitting in blissful ignorance, which may be the way some of you want it (if this is the case then might I suggest you stick to reading the Sun),

What a load of crap.
I thought you were telling the truth and went to The Sun website and theres absolutely loads of stories about Alan (I'm on first names as well).

http://sitesearch.thesun.co.uk/sunsitesearch/sunSearch.jsp

I don't read newspapers but you shouldn't tell me lies.

Chronos-X · 24 Apr 2007 at 20:36

Hugogo said:
Its not an injustice its just that for every family who looses someone to this the media should have the same course of action.

No they shouldn't. The BBC are voicing their opinion as an employer and as friends of his, a rare example of overstepping their duty to report without bias.

Hugogo · 24 Apr 2007 at 20:47

Chronos-X said:
No they shouldn't. The BBC are voicing their opinion as an employer and as friends of his, a rare example of overstepping their duty to report without bias.

I'm not condemning that in the slightest what they are doing is fantastic

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I just feel that with this effort placed for one person what happens if this massively influential body were to apply this step to resolution with every person taken.

Stolly · 24 Apr 2007 at 20:53

These Palestinians have turned out to be as bad as the Israelis after all.

Chronos-X · 24 Apr 2007 at 20:53

Hugogo said:
I'm not condemning that in the slightest what they are doing is fantastic !

I just feel that with this effort placed for one person what happens if this massively influential body were to apply this step to resolution with every person taken.

Well, my original argument was that for security reasons they shouldnn't be doing it at all. But you must concede it would be impraticle (and even more ineffective) to lend this support to every such hostage that pops up.

Zip · 24 Apr 2007 at 20:59

Stolly said:
These Palestinians have turned out to be as bad as the Israelis after all.

Hugogo · 24 Apr 2007 at 21:37

Chronos-X said:
Well, my original argument was that for security reasons they shouldnn't be doing it at all. But you must concede it would be impraticle (and even more ineffective) to lend this support to every such hostage that pops up.

Impractical or not if it can help it should be done.