Frenchman kills three of his Somali captors and escapes!

Freefaller · 26 Aug 2009 at 12:13

The Mad Rapper said:
I think you haven't really taken my comments in the spirit they were intended. No need to be so defensive, and you can't post what you did and not expect someone to press you for more detail.

Of course I can post what I did without "proving" it. But I did to satisfy your curiosity

I hope you feel that my opinion and experience validates my comments.

Fenris · 26 Aug 2009 at 12:16

The English - French thing has been going on for ages.

Any time we say something about them being weak or cowards it's just a joke, we laugh then they laugh then we stop laughing and they run away.

The Mad Rapper · 26 Aug 2009 at 12:17

Freefaller said:
Of course I can post what I did without "proving" it. But I did to satisfy your curiosity I hope you feel that my opinion and experience validates my comments.

Of course - thanks

I have always had an interest in Special Forces. It's difficult to come by information on some countries, always nice to learn more!

Freefaller · 26 Aug 2009 at 12:17

Tefal said:
what :/

I think it mostly comes from their surrender in ww2.

and French british joking/arguing is tradition.

They didn't "surrender" in WW2 - the border is so big to the East of France that they were getting masacred and had suffered substantially in the WW1 and were still licking their wounds by the time WW2 eruprted - thus they had no choice but to accept the occupation of the Nazis which IMO is worse that being anihilated, and even more demeaning than losing a war. People had to dig so deep to accept it, and "look after" the Germans, and accept the fact that homes were looted, women raped, people beaten up, the whole of France was just being taken for a ride and whilst the Germans did "behave" i.e. paid their way, and were relatively civil to the pesants, that's such a thin slice of the attrocities that went on during the occupation. I shan't go on on this as I will start getting rather upset.

aa6972 · 26 Aug 2009 at 12:18

so a Jack Bauer who speaks french...

Freefaller · 26 Aug 2009 at 12:18

The Mad Rapper said:
Of course - thanks

I have always had an interest in Special Forces. It's difficult to come by information on some countries, always nice to learn more!

It's understandable really - I'd love to share some of my experiences, but I just a) can't really b) it was a while back and frankly it's pointless.

Raikiri · 26 Aug 2009 at 12:19

Freefaller said:
It's understandable really - I'd love to share some of my experiences, but I just a) can't really

Black ops.

Well, as you're French White ops. Surrendering where nobody else dare surrender.

Freefaller · 26 Aug 2009 at 12:21

Who Surrenders Doesn't Lose.

Zip · 26 Aug 2009 at 12:23

Freefaller said:
I have absolutely no need to justify or explain myself to you, however I shall give a very precis'ed account of my first hand knowledge.

I did my military service in France (I had to do it), and was able to spend time with the special forces as part of the training, furthermore I have had the privilege to meet several SAS soldiers at the time who came to do some training exercises as part of a NATO operation at the time - right place right time I guess. I also spent time in the middle east speaking to numerous members of different military forces who had some remarkable stories of both the British and French special forces.

I won't go into any more detail.

I didnt know the french use conscription :eek:

Is this why you are a pacifist if you dont mind me asking?

NeilF · 26 Aug 2009 at 12:25

Tefal said:
what :/

I think it mostly comes from their surrender in ww2.

and French british joking/arguing is tradition.

Maybe so, they had been decimated from their huge losses in WW1 and add to that some bad General's, it wasn't going to turn out well...

But seriously, a torrent of anti-French filth spewed out from the US due to France, NATO and not helping in Iraq. I just find it annoying to see intelligent people perpetuating it.

Again, apologies for being so touchy!

Freefaller · 26 Aug 2009 at 12:41

Zip said:
I didnt know the french use conscription

Is this why you are a pacifist if you dont mind me asking?

They stopped doing it for people born 2 months after my b'day! I was one of the last!

I am a pacifist, but I have to say the discipline and skills you are taught are second to none. The military lifestyle (for an officer at any rate) is really rather good - but I couldn't cope with fighting battles I didn't believe in.

I'd do it again though, I loved it.

vincent1989 · 26 Aug 2009 at 12:46

NeilFawcett said:
The 'French coward stuff' came into play mainly thanks to the US when the French were not stupid enough to get involved in Iraq... Their reaction all the way from news media down to general public was diabolical and shameful.

I'll have to apologize, but having a French friend who's been at the 'cutting edge' of american anti-French antics (during that time), I'm rather touchy about it. He was even thrown out of a restaurant in San Diego when they realised he had a French accent! Pathetic!

Again, apololgies for being so touchy on the matter!

WHAT? don't be stupid, we brits have had a monopoly on anti-frenchism since the 100 year war and before, and if it had escaped your attention America hadn't even been colonised/discovered (by the civilized world) at that point. thankyou and goodbye, your coat is on the hook, please don't forget it.

scorza · 26 Aug 2009 at 12:56

French military victories: http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles/french_military_victories.asp

I think I'm right in saying the French have won more battles than any other nation (I may have got that from QI though).

Busa · 26 Aug 2009 at 13:03

The Mad Rapper said:
We're going to play this game are we?

I have been inside 22 SAS at Hereford, visited D Sqn offices, sat in their interest room (where they have a very nice stained glass window commerating Brad Tinion), been to their training facility (where they have all the buildings they do FIBUA training, and the aircraft body they have for rapid entry training).

I have even watched them train

It's funny, because they have such an air of mystisim around them, but they are really just a super highly trained infantry unit with tons of quality kit. You could pass them in the street and not know it.

They are great at what they do because they train day in, day out.

Your turn

Let me guess...you were a cab driver in Hereford and you were on a pickup?

Busa · 26 Aug 2009 at 13:13

A friends brother was in the 2nd Foreign Parachute Regiment of the French Foreign Legion and if they are all like him then i wouldn't like to take them on...he is retired now but is the most nailz bloke i know!

4T5 · 26 Aug 2009 at 13:19

I met a few Dudes from the Legion De Estrange when i went to the Forte de Nugont (sp?) Nailz is definately an adequate description. Blokes I met were as hard as the fortes walls.
I like the French though so get on well over there, Show a little bit of humility & they are Wonderful hosts.

EdGey · 26 Aug 2009 at 14:17

well done him!

FC-PJA · 26 Aug 2009 at 14:35

The Mad Rapper said:
We're going to play this game are we?

I have been inside 22 SAS at Hereford, visited D Sqn offices, sat in their interest room (where they have a very nice stained glass window commerating Brad Tinion), been to their training facility (where they have all the buildings they do FIBUA training, and the aircraft body they have for rapid entry training).

I have even watched them train

It's funny, because they have such an air of mystisim around them, but they are really just a super highly trained infantry unit with tons of quality kit. You could pass them in the street and not know it.

They are great at what they do because they train day in, day out.

Your turn

Prove it. What colour was the boathouse at hereford....

MotherMayI · 26 Aug 2009 at 14:38

French foreign ministry officials confirmed that he had escaped but denied there had been any violence.

.. Huh? How does that work?

VoG · 26 Aug 2009 at 14:41

MotherMayI said:
.. Huh? How does that work?

trying not to anger the scumbags any further, as doubtless if there seen to be to be gloating too much over the whole thing there will be the inevitable reprisals.