Fuel price discussion thread (was ‘chaos’)

I agree with @robj20 , unless your mower is really old it will be fine. The problem is not using the petrol, it's storing it in the machine. Here's what Stiga say about it:

Petrol is changing to #E10 this September in the UK. But what does that mean for your STIGA lawnmower?
The ethanol content of petrol is increasing to 10% making the new E10 petrol cleaner and better for the environment. So what's the problem? Ethanol attracts water, leading to gum formation in your lawnmower's engine fuel lines and carburettor. This causes corrosion resulting in starting issues and engine damage over time.
Petrol starts to go 'stale' after 30 days from purchase, therefore we recommend adding fuel stabiliser to freshly purchased petrol. This will keep it from going stale for up to two years.
If you are storing your mower for more than 30 days - for example for winter storage - we recommend completely draining your mower of petrol to keep your engine healthy. This can be done by running the mower after you have finished mowing your lawn, until it comes to a stop meaning the petrol has been used up. For more information please consult your mower user manual or our customer service team at [email protected].
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I kinda agree @dLockers, although it's a ride-on mower I'm talking about. A battery or mains voltage mower just wouldn't cut it.

Screw people not getting medication, dying while waiting for ambulances or losing money by not getting to work, my grass needs cut! Joking in case it wasn't obvious, you know, obvious as in stop ******* panic buying fuel. If they public want to be sheep come and eat my grass.
 
i got an old petrol push mower and it gives me no trouble. petrol is left in over winter and it starts fine when its time to use it. i hear ethanol can gum up the carbs in them but its very easy to clean out a carb and jet. got a petrol pressure washer too although thats too new to tell. i do use momentum99 in all my outdoor equipment that needs petrol.
 
Meanwhile back on topic today the press are running new irresponsible stories about it will also another month for the disruption to restock supplies at the forecourt. What also does not help is independent forecourts trying to cash in by charging up to DOUBLE the RPP right now (they claim its deters buyers .... :rolleyes:).
 
The M3 has under 5 litres in the tank, no super unleaded anywhere around here. I've hooked it up to a battery conditioner and I'll wait until the hysteria is over. Regular unleaded availability seems decent as long as you get to the station early. Our Tiguan was filled up at the end of last week as it was on the fuel light so we shouldn't need to fill it for another 2-3 weeks hopefully.
 
I managed to get lucky and find a Shell refuelling last night so i popped in after and managed to get a full tank of diesel. They didnt have a limit, but i was glad to get fuel cause my fuel light was on
 
I managed to fill up yesterday, so no bus for me for work tomorrow, and i can actually go places today on my day off. Normally i fill up 25L, but i made a point of filling up to bang on £30, doubt the next person will notice the person before them didn't take a full tank.

Still, my area, and Bristol (city over from me) where i went last night, all seem fine. The media appear to really have bested themselves this time, hopefully people start waking up to their BS.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
The UK had ADR drivers last week. NOTHING repeat NOTHING changed much in a week
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Not every HGV driver can do ADR, but every ADR driver can do HGV?
I suspect the HGV driver shortage has converted into salary increase and sign up bonuses that may have stolen some drivers from fuel sector. Not in a week, but stretched over couple months.

But you are right that the bulk of problem is the "toilet paper shortage" people going to fill up because they heard something on the news.
 
alec said:
Not every HGV driver can do ADR, but every ADR driver can do HGV?
I suspect the HGV driver shortage has converted into salary increase and sign up bonuses that may have stolen some drivers from fuel sector. Not in a week, but stretched over couple months.

But you are right that the bulk of problem is the "toilet paper shortage" people going to fill up because they heard something on the news.
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I don't know the ins and outs of it but according to the drivers at work petrol/diesel tanker driving is one of the highest paid areas and people only tend to leave when they die/retire. Obviously there are limits how quickly someone can get into the role but according to one of our lorry drivers at work he knows people who are qualified who've been waiting 4 years and would jump at any opening and says BS is there any driver shortage in that sector.

EDIT: I assume that was "four years" and not "for years" - I just assumed at the time he was saying 4.
 
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dr_volki said:
3rd one i tried finally had fuel but only allowed £35 max. :(
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While I understand that they do this to make their supply last longer, surely it adds to the problem as everyone will be going back sooner than they ordinarily would have had they managed to fill the tank up.
 
ChrisD. said:
While I understand that they do this to make their supply last longer, surely it adds to the problem as everyone will be going back sooner than they ordinarily would have had they managed to fill the tank up.
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indeed. i will be back there latest Sunday most likely.
1 tank lasts me usually ~8 days depending on weekend travel.

i might just top up if drive past any petrol station with no queue /shrug
 
dr_volki said:
well had the "refill fuel now!" come up at 10pm last night by the time i got to the first petrol station, with no fuel left :D.
3rd one i tried finally had fuel but only allowed £35 max. :(
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Its not like they can enforce it. I called in at one last night with a £30 limit and put £30.01 in and the lady behind the counter thanked me as I was the first person in the last hour to stick to the £30 limit. Its not like they arent going to take your money from you after you have put in £80 are they? Especially if its not your local./regular fuel station, its all done on trust that you wont go over the limit.
 
Greebo said:
Its not like they can enforce it. I called in at one last night with a £30 limit and put £30.01 in and the lady behind the counter thanked me as I was the first person in the last hour to stick to the £30 limit. Its not like they arent going to take your money from you after you have put in £80 are they? Especially if its not your local./regular fuel station, its all done on trust that you wont go over the limit.
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I'm pretty sure it's relatively easy for them to shut the pump down if they wish, whether the staff can be bothered with the hassle is the other question.
 
Greebo said:
Its not like they can enforce it. I called in at one last night with a £30 limit and put £30.01 in and the lady behind the counter thanked me as I was the first person in the last hour to stick to the £30 limit. Its not like they arent going to take your money from you after you have put in £80 are they? Especially if its not your local./regular fuel station, its all done on trust that you wont go over the limit.
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the pump shut me off at £34.38 last night and no more :o
 
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