Fuel price discussion thread (was ‘chaos’)

I had hoped I might avoid this. I don't need fuel as I work from home at the moment. But I'd already cancelled visiting my parents last weekend, and it's looking like I won't be able to this weekend either.

Thing is, even if people are now only filling up as normal, wont the fact that many stations were run completely dry in the panic mean that they will be unable to cope with even normal levels of demand for a while? I'm sure it was mentioned earlier that under normal circumstances, forecourts are refilled long before they actually totally run dry; now, without that buffer, they are just going to keep running out, even without panic buying.
 
We drove back from Scotland after a long weekend riding on Monday. There were no queues anywhere in Scotland (Glentress) and the issue started to appear below Peterborough on the A1 and got worse the further south we drove. My mate got refused service for his VM Amarok in the lorry side of the garage as it wasn't a commercial vehicle although it actually is.
 
The demand for fuel is largely constant so there will be a dip at some point. There's a small amount of overcapacity in the delivery network most of the time so with that and the dip it will eventually recover, as long as the supply of HGV drivers doesn't dwindle further...
 
DRZ said:
The demand for fuel is largely constant so there will be a dip at some point. There's a small amount of overcapacity in the delivery network most of the time so with that and the dip it will eventually recover, as long as the supply of HGV drivers doesn't dwindle further...
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It will, but it's likely a couple of weeks off, not days.
 
Beerbaron said:
We drove back from Scotland after a long weekend riding on Monday. There were no queues anywhere in Scotland (Glentress) and the issue started to appear below Peterborough on the A1 and got worse the further south we drove. My mate got refused service for his VM Amarok in the lorry side of the garage as it wasn't a commercial vehicle although it actually is.
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Wonder what they class as commercial vehicle as my Navara is definitely N1 on the V5 and taxed as a commercial vehicle... though I wouldn't try and fill up at a LGV specific area.
 
Looks like almost all stations near me in SE London are still completely dry. Definitely more than 27%, lol.

The most reliable way to find fuel is to look at the live status of how busy a station is on google maps. Then use waze to check the traffic on the approach. Busier than usual on google maps + traffic on waze = fuel!
 
Catch 22. People are having to go further afield to find fuel and then get to the point of no return where they have to fill up somewhere, along with everyone else in the same situation.
 
Conscript said:
I had hoped I might avoid this. I don't need fuel as I work from home at the moment. But I'd already cancelled visiting my parents last weekend, and it's looking like I won't be able to this weekend either.

Thing is, even if people are now only filling up as normal, wont the fact that many stations were run completely dry in the panic mean that they will be unable to cope with even normal levels of demand for a while? I'm sure it was mentioned earlier that under normal circumstances, forecourts are refilled long before they actually totally run dry; now, without that buffer, they are just going to keep running out, even without panic buying.
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I suppose there there shouldn't be a normal demand for fuel next week as so many people already have full tanks unless they are getting to 3/4 fuel then topping up again...........
 
Still pretty sparse here. Dropped in to Sainsburys first thing to get lunch and there were people getting fuel. I was half tempted to get some myself but I still had half a tank. Queue wasn't too bad as the petrol price sign on the approach was off so you wouldn't know if you didn't drive in.

I heard a woman yelling on the phone "YEAH, THEY'VE GOT SOME. GET DOWN HERE QUICK." :p

As I pulled out they were putting out the no fuel signs just as the queue was backing up to the main road.

Coop had fuel but only one grade on two pumps. TBH I'm tempted to tell work I'm out and use it as an excuse to cycle in tomorrow :p
 
tom_e said:
A lot of people must have done this at the start of the week, my commute was almost back to lock down speed.
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I found the opposite, not much less traffic by volume but everyone going REALLLLLY slowly everywhere, presumably trying to get 90mpg so they don't need to go and buy fuel.
 
Super-Spy said:
That's interesting if the all come from one terminal
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I know with the price differential BS...which I'm told is down to additives more than anything else used in the super secret formulas they like us to believe make much difference! :rolleyes: on high performance cars its probably not a good idea to use supermarket fuel or anything less than super unleaded but here in london super unleaded is pretty hard to come by right now do not think they are even bothering to deliver it right now either :(
 
Rroff said:
Wonder what they class as commercial vehicle as my Navara is definitely N1 on the V5 and taxed as a commercial vehicle... though I wouldn't try and fill up at a LGV specific area.
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We stopped for food mainly and had enough diesel to get home so didn't argue the point. They also refused a caravanette in front of us. The lorry side was completely empty yet people were having to queue for diesel the other side which was making things worse.
 
Beerbaron said:
We stopped for food mainly and had enough diesel to get home so didn't argue the point. They also refused a caravanette in front of us. The lorry side was completely empty yet people were having to queue for diesel the other side which was making things worse.
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They were doing that down near where I work I think so as to be able to manually control how much people could fill up - was causing a longer tailback though.
 
Conscript said:
I had hoped I might avoid this. I don't need fuel as I work from home at the moment. But I'd already cancelled visiting my parents last weekend, and it's looking like I won't be able to this weekend either.

Thing is, even if people are now only filling up as normal, wont the fact that many stations were run completely dry in the panic mean that they will be unable to cope with even normal levels of demand for a while? I'm sure it was mentioned earlier that under normal circumstances, forecourts are refilled long before they actually totally run dry; now, without that buffer, they are just going to keep running out, even without panic buying.
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If you're heading for london or the SE make sure you've enough fuel to get back home again because you won't find anything down here locals are are like bird twitchers passing information on facebook etc "theres fuel down at xxxx! Get down here asap!".

Seems the deliveries aren't done to demand there should be more prioritisation to the places that actually need it rather than treating everywhere exactly the same. Whats worse is the govt is trying to telling authorities not to use language like "don't say panic buying" or "stockpiling" rather use "filling up earlier than usual" or "changed patterns in demand" the city council here is accusing the govt of "covering up the fuel crisis" and saying the language is "nonsensical", sweeping the shortage under the carpet and pretending it doesn't exist. They've definitely learnt their lessons from covid.
 
Blackjack Davy said:
If you're heading for london or the SE make sure you've enough fuel to get back home again because you won't find anything down here locals are are like bird twitchers passing information on facebook etc "theres fuel down at xxxx! Get down here asap!".

Seems the deliveries aren't done to demand there should be more prioritisation to the places that actually need it rather than treating everywhere exactly the same. Whats worse is the govt is trying to telling authorities not to use language like "don't say panic buying" or "stockpiling" rather use "filling up earlier than usual" or "changed patterns in demand" the city council here is accusing the govt of "covering up the fuel crisis" and saying the language is "nonsensical", sweeping the shortage under the carpet and pretending it doesn't exist. They've definitely learnt their lessons from covid.
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I'm in Kent, so very much in one of the worst affected areas. Parents are in north Suffolk. But I probably only need about 3/4 of a tank for the round trip.
 
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