Fuel & VAT increase

Why are people looking at this as a single increase? Of course a single increase isn't that bad... and its not going to break the bank, but in what.. a year? the price of petrol has gone from a low of ~85p when the recession kicked in to about 108p now. Thats an increase of almost 28% which really does make an impact.
 
rypt said:
Why must something that already cost far too much keep up with inflation, why can we not have a motoring cost similar to the USA?
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When the price of oil went to $150 a barrell they really felt it. I think the cost for fuel is high, but it is affordable for more people now then ever before.
 
Can I remind you we also get free medical treatment in the UK?
And that america also has a benefits system?

Only a small amount of tax money is abused, the rest makes us the great country we are today.
 
Del Lardo said:
I'd quite happily do without and get personal insurance to cover loss of work but I suspect that at least 2.8 million people in the UK would disagree ;)
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More would because thats a stupid idea. Not everyone can afford this insurance, and what of those who are disabled from birth and can't work?
What are they supposed to do, live on the streets and starve?

Think about how much crime that would generate, how much extra room in our prisons. It'd cost us more in the long run to get rid of benefits.

You big bloody dafty, think about consequences.
 
In July 2008, Gordon Brown pledged not to increase fuel duty for at least a year.

In the next year he increased duty 3 times - the largest annual increase ever seen.
 
I get around said:
More would because thats a stupid idea. Not everyone can afford this insurance, and what of those who are disabled from birth and can't work?
What are they supposed to do, live on the streets and starve?

Think about how much crime that would generate, how much extra room in our prisons. It'd cost us more in the long run to get rid of benefits.

You big bloody dafty, think about consequences.
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Hence the words "I'd" & "at least" ;)
 
I get around said:
Can I remind you we also get free medical treatment in the UK?
And that america also has a benefits system?

Only a small amount of tax money is abused, the rest makes us the great country we are today.
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Can I remind you that the WELFARE system (MINUS the NHS) spending is equal to the TOTAL income tax intake

Muffin` said:
When the price of oil went to $150 a barrell they really felt it. I think the cost for fuel is high, but it is affordable for more people now then ever before.
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USA felt it because they not only tended to drive far less economical cars, but also built their life around having cheap gas.
If we had their levels of fuel price, plus their levels of "road tax" and their levels of car insurance, then we would probably have a hefty amount left in our wallets at the end of each month.
 
I get around said:
More would because thats a stupid idea. Not everyone can afford this insurance, and what of those who are disabled from birth and can't work?
What are they supposed to do, live on the streets and starve?

Think about how much crime that would generate, how much extra room in our prisons. It'd cost us more in the long run to get rid of benefits.

You big bloody dafty, think about consequences.
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I don't disagree, but you're generalising.

Parents should look after their children, not the state. And the state shouldn't pay so much for those behind bars.

Benefits should incentivise work, not discourage it.
 
rypt said:
USA felt it because they not only tended to drive far less economical cars, but also built their life around having cheap gas.
If we had their levels of fuel price, plus their levels of "road tax" and their levels of car insurance, then we would probably have a hefty amount left in our wallets at the end of each month.
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Right ok, back in the real world. VED - to be or not to be that is the question
 
All the roads where I live have 50 mph limits now anyway,not to mention that I always seem to get stuck behind someone doing 38 mph everywhere,so my driving is very economical! :rolleyes:
Next car for me will be a diesel without a doubt.
 
They should spend some of the extra revenue gained in keeping the roads upto scratch. Not sure what the budgeting is for road repair but the state of the roads must have an increase in wear and tear on cars, repairing roads correctly rather than chucking gravel on them only to be worn off in six months.

Less money spent on repairing cars and sat in traffic jams would boost the economy more than a simple rise in vat. And make the roads a better place to be, if only eh.
 
Personally I'm like InvaderGIR, I've just accepted the fact it costs a lot to run a car and that fuel will always increase. For me it is a known quantity, if it becomes prohibitively expensive I'll simply down size to a less powerful car.
 
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