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Fury - Wilder thread

Discussion in 'Sports Arena' started by koolpc, Nov 28, 2018.

  1. Jonnybmac

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    He did a good interview for the breakfast club too
     
  2. Col.Mustard

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    You have to wonder if his earlier rants were influenced by umm errr mind expanding ' stuff ' . . .
     
  3. ChroniC

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    I think this illustrates my opinion of a fight properly. I expect many haven't seen fights like this to compare for a while or are just to young. The heavyweight division has not been as strong as this since Lewis.


    Fury wouldn't last 3 rounds with the likes of 90s heavyweights. Try scoring this compared to love tap fury.
     
  4. Thekwango

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    I've just got round to watching the highlights of the fight....how the **** did the first judge score that fight 115-111 for Wilder. now I'm no fan of fury but that was borderline criminal. it's a crying shame fury hasn't got a punch worth talking about because like him or loathe him he can box.
    that said it's a sad indictment of the heavyweight boxing division that wilder even holds a belt and that fury is challenging to reclaim a belt. as mentioned above neither would last 3 rounds against a good quality true heavyweight.
     
  5. rubberduck

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    Rewatched fight. I gave them 4 rounds each i.e. 10-9, 2 rounds I scored 10-10 and have Wilder winning by 4 points due to the two 10-8 rounds.
     
  6. viathinair

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    With reasonable generosity I can come up with a draw, just barely, but never a Wilder win, whereas I can see Fury taking it. But as I said earlier in here, I don't think it was a robbery, just a "gift" that the location (US) accounts for - so if it was in Britain and Wilder was British and Fury was American, Wilder would likely still get such a gift. I don't give a damn what anyone says otherwise: ALL countries' boxing organisations are corrupt/biased and NO country can get on a high horse and claim clear purity over any other country, although I'd say Germany is generally the relatively worst during my time as a boxing fan (I've been following boxing since around 2000) while US and Britain trade blows. To be fair, I haven't followed the low weights (below light-weight) so I don't know about Japan, Thailand, etc.
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2018
  7. Roar87

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    There's no bigger Tyson fan than me, but Tyson Fury is 6'9 and Mike Tyson is 5'10. I'm pretty sure he'd do alright.
     
  8. ChroniC

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    Frank was 6ft3 I'm sure Tyson could deal with it.
     
  9. Thekwango

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    No he wouldn’t have done alright. He’d have been on his arse in the first few rounds. Fury’s obvious lack of punching power meant mike Tyson would have simply walked through his guard - as he demonstrably did with numerous harder hitting opponents during the height of his career.
     
  10. viathinair

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    Prime Mike (in the late 80s) should definitely be the favourite to beat any version of Fury. The size difference and evasiveness of Fury would probably win him a few rounds, but Fury mainly doesn't have the power as said - actually he has very poor power for a man his size. Mike's bobbing/weaving in his prime was designed for and was extremely effective against taller opponents, some as tall as 6'5" (which is why I think the even taller Fury would take a few rounds based partly on that). Also, Cunningham, a blown-up cruiser who never had much power at cruiserweight let alone heavyweight, put Fury on his arse - Mike could definitely do it multiple times. Fury could theoretically "win" if he intentionally stunk the place out by boxing extremely negatively, but then again I don't consider that "winning".