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Poll: Fury X Owners. Would you buy the Fury X again if you could do it all over again?
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So, looks like 28 people voted.
I would like to know the reason why most people wouldn't buy it again? I found that interesting.
So, if you can state why you would buy or not buy it again if you had to do it all over again.
I would like to know the reason why most people wouldn't buy it again? I found that interesting.
So, if you can state why you would buy or not buy it again if you had to do it all over again.
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Sure. That would be great! I was originally going to create a poll on the forum here but didn't know you could do that (at least for a regular user like me).
So go ahead!
To make it a bit more interesting perhaps you could include regular Fury owners and not just Fury X owners.
So, something like: Fury and Fury X owners. If you could do it all over again, would you buy the Fury or Fury X if you could?
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Yes this exactly.
As for me. I got it $60 - $70 cheaper than the 980 Ti. That's the main reason. I get comparable performance as the 980 Ti and slightly better performance at 4K. Plus, the fact that it's liquid cooled was a nice addition.
I will say that you kind of have to see it in real life to appreciate the card from a looks point of view. With the Radeon logo lighting up and with red LED's lighting up showing the load of the GPU was a nice touch. Especially if you have a see through case.
It's definitely the best looking card I own. The pictures don't due it justice.
I agree with you for the most part. With the newer drivers one can see that AMD has surpassed the 980 Ti, at least at 4k consistently. Why didn't they launch those drivers when the Fury X came out. It would have been much better in terms of mind share and better sales.
Had the Fury X came out with the improved drivers and improved performance and cheaper by at least $50 then it would have been a hit.
One another thing that I didn't get is that why did they launch it with a closed loop cooler. It's nice but that should have been an option and that would have cut the price of the Fury X. nVidia has 980 Ti's with hybrid coolers similar to the Fury X but those are an option with select board partners.
Fury X would have been much more competitive $50 - $100 cheaper at launch. The regular Fury should have launched at $500 - $450 price range.
Not true. On average it's beating the 980 Ti:
http://techavenue.wix.com/techavenue#!xfx-fury-x-review-final/c6bd
I was talking about stock 980 Ti. With newer drivers it's actually matching the 980 Ti at stock and even beating at 4k on average. According to this. Never did a say an OC'ed 980 Ti. That's the reason I brought a Fury X over the 980 Ti as I got mines at a deal where it cost $50 - $60 less than a stock 980 Ti. It was a no brainer to get the the Fury X over the 980 Ti at that price. Although, the Fury X can be overclocked. I read that if you can reach 1200/600 than the performance boost can be significant even greater than an OC'ed 980 Ti. Problem is I haven't gotten too many confirmation about people reaching that level.
It would be an interesting to try for an experiment to see if Fury X owners could hit the 1200/600 mark.
I don't regret it. I just wished that the performance improvements and the cost should have been cheaper that the 980 Ti to begin with. Also, as much as I like the the custom loop cooler it added extra cost to the Fury X. I think that should have been an "option".
AMD should have done these things at launch with the Fury X $60 - $70 cheaper than the 980 Ti. It would have gotten a hell a lot of attention and sales.
That has somewhat changed. With the newer drivers at 1440P it matches the stock 980 Ti on average.
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That's good news all around
The problem comes when comparing the FX to 'out of the box' overclocked Ti cards, they tend to bury the FX by 25-30% sometimes
This very recent review gives an idea;
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/89717-evga-geforce-gtx-980-ti-hybrid-gaming/
Yes. That's the issue. They were comparing it with the "stock" 980 Ti. I mean I got mines less than $60 - $70 less than the 980 Ti stock.
I can see why many would get an overclocked out of the box 980 Ti. Heck I even brought a XFX 7600 GT XXX edition which was an overclocked 7600 GT. A lot of people are doing the same with slightly overclocked 980 Ti and paying a little more.
I think to counter this problem AMD's Board partners need to release an OC'ed version of the Fury X like MSI Lighting Fury X similar to what their partners did with the R9 290X. R9 290X's sold very well.
I wonder why they are not doing so? There were manufacturing issues 3+ month's ago according to AMD's CEO with the Fury X. Understandable I suppose as they would have to go through an extra layers where they need to get the pump + closed loop liquid cooler. But that has seen been cleared up.
Anyone want to venture a guess as to why AMD's board partners are not releasing OC'ed Fury X? I think might help with the sales.
Well the price of the Fury X/Fury varies from country to country. I got it cheaper $60 - $70 than the 980 Ti as the primary reason. I think it may have been a difficult choice if it was priced the same. Funny thing is when they dropped the price of the Fury X like the Sapphire Fury X to around $570 on newegg it all got sold out quickly during the holidays. Which goes to show that if they had launched it at that price I think it would have generated much greater "mind share" and enthusiasm and thus more sales.
With respect to overclocking, I don't really overclock much. As the Fury X is more than fast enough "currently" as such my out of the box experience would be slightly better than a stock 980 Ti which would have cost me $50 - $70 more. I only overclock when I need to. I overclocked my HD 6970 only when I needed to get the extra performance. I know that I may be the exception but I know others who have brought stock 980 Ti's and haven't overclocked.
With respect to the extra 2GB. I can definitely see that as a reason as I also know another person who brought the 980 Ti and he sighted the extra 2GB as the reason as 4GB was pushing it at 4K in GTA V as he put it. But let's face it, the extra 2GB I don't think will matter much. Going forward, if you wanted a GPU that will last you at least 2+ years that will allow you to play games maxed out at 4K with at least FXAA you realistically need 8GB+ plus more horsepower than the 980 Ti/Fury X.
My other main reason was similar to your last reason and that is FreeSync. I don't want to be locked down to one vendor and would like to have an open and standard version of Variable Refresh rate technology. I am thinking of getting a FreeSync monitor and not only that it is cheaper than G-Sync by almost $150 - $200. Not worth the extra cost for essentially the same technology.
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Thank you!
Also, can you change the title to include "Fury / Fury X". I can't change the initial post on this thread.
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Anyone what to take a stab at this question?
The Fury X has 176 GB/S more bandwidth than the 980 Ti but it doesn't pull away from the 980 Ti buy a significant margin. I found that a bit shocking to be honest.
I was thinking that with Fury X's higher bandwidth memory it would have easily beat the 980 Ti.
I was thinking this would be a repeat of the HD 4870 when it launched with the World's First GDDR5 RAM. It beat the GTX 260 on average which had a memory bandwidth of around 111 Gb/s vs 115GB/s of the HD 4870 and it even beat the GTX 280 in some games while it cost's $100 less than the GTX 260 and almost half the cost of a GTX 280 when it launched.
I was totally floored by the price/performance of the HD 4870 and brought my first ATI card!
Given the specs of the Fury X with it's insane 176GB/s bandwidth advantage and 4096 Bit bus, shouldn't it have demolished the 980 Ti. I know there are architectural differences between the two GPU's and memory bandwidth shouldn't be the only factor in performance but still. On paper the hardware of the Fury X looks vastly superior but it doesn't blow away the 980 Ti in terms of performance.
You guys think it's a driver issue or something?
The Fury X has 176 GB/S more bandwidth than the 980 Ti but it doesn't pull away from the 980 Ti buy a significant margin. I found that a bit shocking to be honest.
I was thinking that with Fury X's higher bandwidth memory it would have easily beat the 980 Ti.
I was thinking this would be a repeat of the HD 4870 when it launched with the World's First GDDR5 RAM. It beat the GTX 260 on average which had a memory bandwidth of around 111 Gb/s vs 115GB/s of the HD 4870 and it even beat the GTX 280 in some games while it cost's $100 less than the GTX 260 and almost half the cost of a GTX 280 when it launched.
I was totally floored by the price/performance of the HD 4870 and brought my first ATI card!
Given the specs of the Fury X with it's insane 176GB/s bandwidth advantage and 4096 Bit bus, shouldn't it have demolished the 980 Ti. I know there are architectural differences between the two GPU's and memory bandwidth shouldn't be the only factor in performance but still. On paper the hardware of the Fury X looks vastly superior but it doesn't blow away the 980 Ti in terms of performance.
You guys think it's a driver issue or something?
It is as fast or close to the 980 Ti. But in my opinion it needed to be cheaper to make it more attractive due to the fact that you can get an overclocked 980 Ti's for slightly more and there aren't overclocked Fury X's to counter that and also it has two more GB's than the Fury X, so AMD needed to lower the price to make it more attractive. So, if it's selling for $650 and an overclocked 980 Ti is also going for the same price or slightly more one can see why someone would choose the 980 Ti over the Fury X.
The launch price would have been justified if the Fury X had beaten the 980 Ti by more than a couple of percent.
Also, the drivers didn't show the full potential of the Fury X at launch if you look at the newer drivers the performance is much better against the 980 Ti now than when it launched.
I brought when it was $50 - $60 cheaper than the 980 Ti and what do you know on newegg when the price was cut it all got sold out.
You have no complaints from me as I like the Fury X at the price I brought and having seen the card in person with it's sleek design and the Radeon logo light up which looks sweet in a see through case plus it's liquid cool at $50 - $60 cheaper than the 980 Ti it was a no brainer to choose the Fury X over the 980 Ti given that you can get as much performance if not better than the 980 Ti with the new drivers.
When it came out, it was placed around the 980s performance on here, so id be very surprised if AMD have managed to lever that much more performance out of it in a couple of drivers, to now have it matching/beating the Ti/TX, as Nvidia couldn't boost their 980 with that much more performance through a couple of drivers, they had to release 2 more cards.
Actually they did:
At 1440P they have caught up to the 980 Ti:
At 4K they have surpassed the 980 Ti:
The latest ones from AMD's site.
No they have not lol.
Overclock a 980 Ti and a Fury X, the AMD card gets beat by a healthy margin at any resolution.
The Fury X is a very good card and excellent bang for buck but it is not as quick as a GTX 980 Ti.
I know people who actually work for AMD who don't make some of the silly claims you do.
Maybe you should re-read the post again. Where did I say an overclocked 980 Ti won't beat a Fury X. Oh yeah I didn't. I showed benchmark of a regular 980 Ti vs a regular Fury X where it shows it's matching the performance of a 980 Ti at 1440P and beating it at 4K.
Why did they down clock the Fury X core? Even then it's beating the 980 Ti.
Certain 980 Ti OC has instability issues.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/3d3vtg/i_can_barely_even_overclock_my_gigabyte_gtx_980/
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...0-ti-screen-freezes-and-blue-dots-on-screen-/
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ing/windows-10-driver-crashes-with-overclock/
http://forums.evga.com/Evga-GTX-980-SC-crashing-with-slight-overclock-m2269012.aspx
http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-GTX-980-SC-Unstable-at-stock-m2224787.aspx
Overclock settings not staying.
http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-GTX-980-TI-SC-wont-stay-at-set-overclock-for-GPU-m2347011.aspx
Besides, you can get better overclock with the Sapphire Trixx software now.
Remember AMD had locked down the HBM so people were not able to overclock. I for one don't understand why AMD didn't allow AIB partners to come up with their own custom boards with unlocked voltage and provide OC'ed Fury X's.
Fury X's also scale better than the Titan X's and even beat's Titan X SLI's when compared to a Fury X crossfire.
