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Fury X Vs Titan X - Performance compared

TwsT said:
Many reviewers for unknown reasons slated it for not having 8GB which still boggles me as you can clearly see it handles 4k just fine.....
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It certainly seems this way but PCPer still say in GTAV they can replicate instances where the Fury X runs out of VRAM and stutters. Ryan said this is the exact same spot every time and the Ti handles it just fine.

As a general rule I tend to believe most of what he tells me but someone has to be wrong dont they!
 
Its a pity NVIDIA don't allow the manufacture of aftermarket cooled versions of the TX. Some of the coolers found on the aftermarket Ti cards are astonishingly quiet. 80% on the msi I'm using in sig is inaudible. Even at 100% its a gentle whoosh and certainly not obtrusive.
 
setter said:
Its a pity NVIDIA don't allow the manufacture of aftermarket cooled versions of the TX. Some of the coolers found on the aftermarket Ti cards are astonishingly quiet. 80% on the msi I'm using in sig is inaudible. Even at 100% its a gentle whoosh and certainly not obtrusive.
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If one can afford to buy a Titan X one can also afford to buy the aftermarket EVGA ACX 2.0 cooler for £49.99p which cools the card better than reference and makes it very quiet :)
 
Dicehunter said:
If one can afford to buy a Titan X one can also afford to buy the aftermarket EVGA ACX 2.0 cooler for £49.99p which cools the card better than reference and makes it very quiet :)
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Problem there Dice, lies with the voiding of the warranty. Others may be comfortable with it but taking apart an £800 GPU to fit the aftermarket cooler I got and thus throwing the warranty had me a touch worried :eek:
 
oldestgregg said:
Problem there Dice, lies with the voiding of the warranty. Others may be comfortable with it but taking apart an £800 GPU to fit the aftermarket cooler I got and thus throwing the warranty had me a touch worried :eek:
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They won't know the warranty is void if you carefully take the cooler off while leaving the stickers in tact ;)

In fact on my TX there is 1 sticker and it's no where near the screws which means they literally have no way of knowing you replaced the cooler other than testing the thermal compound on the GPU and even then I highly doubt they'd do that :)
 
Dicehunter said:
They won't know the warranty is void if you carefully take the cooler off while leaving the stickers in tact ;)

In fact on my TX there is 1 sticker and it's no where near the screws which means they literally have no way of knowing you replaced the cooler other than testing the thermal compound on the GPU and even then I highly doubt they'd do that :)
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They can look at the marks in the grooves on the screws.. There's a trick to this though, use soft toilet paper or similar and use it between the screw and the screwdriver.. if done right it leaves no marks at all. very thin cloth works to if the screw isnt to small.

@Gregster
Why are you not OCing the Fury X? seems like an unfair comparison if one card is OCed and the other is not? Unless of course something is hindering you in OCing the Fury?
 
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setter said:
Its a pity NVIDIA don't allow the manufacture of aftermarket cooled versions of the TX. Some of the coolers found on the aftermarket Ti cards are astonishingly quiet. 80% on the msi I'm using in sig is inaudible. Even at 100% its a gentle whoosh and certainly not obtrusive.
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There are a few but they don't seem to have made it to UK retailers
 
TwsT said:
they got themselves all hyped up for a fanboy slaughterfest to find out it only "matches" and inplaces both wins and loses.

I personally think AMD nailed it. I don't want one as I don't game at 4k yet. But it looks great it's cool it's quiet and it performs well in the extreme area which is where 980ti users should be using their hardware.

Many reviewers for unknown reasons slated it for not having 8GB which still boggles me as you can clearly see it handles 4k just fine.....

Anyway as long as those who bought them are happy :)
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The 8Gb issues is in part AMD's own fault. They marketed 8GB as required for 4K gaming, heck even their 390X launch hyped up 8GB and had a bar graph showing the 390X has twice the vram of the 980 therefore it must be twice as etc.

I am sure AMD didn't want to be limited to 8GB but they passed a critical deadline in the development cycle where they were committed to HBM and but 2GB HBM stacks were no going to be available.

4GB is indeed just enough for almost all current games. It has been shown in games like GTAV when setting s are maxed out the FuryX struggles and stutters but at this point frame rates are too low anyway, even on the Titan, so it is a non issue. The more worrying part is probably having a xfire FuryX to try to get playable framerates at those settings, in which case the vram could well be a limit in a few select games.
In the future things will get more limiting with 4GB but by then people who purchased a FuryX will have upgraded to the 16nm replacement.

It will also be game dependent, open world games like GTA V have a lot of unique assets and as the draw distance increases more and more vram is required. Otherwise texture streaming should help a lot in most games, soemthign that DX12 gives betetr developer tools for.
 
D.P. said:
The 8Gb issues is in part AMD's own fault. They marketed 8GB as required for 4K gaming, heck even their 390X launch hyped up 8GB and had a bar graph showing the 390X has twice the vram of the 980 therefore it must be twice as etc.

I am sure AMD didn't want to be limited to 8GB but they passed a critical deadline in the development cycle where they were committed to HBM and but 2GB HBM stacks were no going to be available.

4GB is indeed just enough for almost all current games. It has been shown in games like GTAV when setting s are maxed out the FuryX struggles and stutters but at this point frame rates are too low anyway, even on the Titan, so it is a non issue. The more worrying part is probably having a xfire FuryX to try to get playable framerates at those settings, in which case the vram could well be a limit in a few select games.
In the future things will get more limiting with 4GB but by then people who purchased a FuryX will have upgraded to the 16nm replacement.

It will also be game dependent, open world games like GTA V have a lot of unique assets and as the draw distance increases more and more vram is required. Otherwise texture streaming should help a lot in most games, soemthign that DX12 gives betetr developer tools for.
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I've been testing the Fury X at 4K where 4GB simply wouldn't be enough on the 290X or 980GTX and frankly it does pretty well. All this talk of apples to apples and apples to oranges and bananas. How much of that is the huge bus width and bandwidth vs their updated delta memory compression techniques, or both - I don't know, but it's working on some levels.

Directly comparing HBM to GDDR5 is 'fruitless'.

lol.
 
Silent_Scone said:
I've been testing the Fury X at 4K where 4GB simply wouldn't be enough on the 290X or 980GTX and frankly it does pretty well. All this talk of apples to apples and apples to oranges and bananas. How much of that is the huge bus width and bandwidth vs their updated delta memory compression techniques, or both - I don't know, but it's working on some levels.

Directly comparing HBM to GDDR5 is 'fruitless'.

lol.
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The delta compression doesn't save memory usage but increases bandwidth. And bandwidth gains from HBM are also irrelevant, if a game requires more than 54GB of assets in vram then bandwidth wont change that requirement at all.

What AMD are doing with the FuryX is making the driver aggressively pull resources out of vram that they expect wont be needed as well as some kind of garbage collection. This is why they said the driver would have to be specially tuned for each game because they need to try and figure out what resources are safe to drop. this helps avoid the FuryX running in to vram limits.
 
TwsT said:
they got themselves all hyped up for a fanboy slaughterfest to find out it only "matches" and inplaces both wins and loses.

I personally think AMD nailed it. I don't want one as I don't game at 4k yet. But it looks great it's cool it's quiet and it performs well in the extreme area which is where 980ti users should be using their hardware.

Many reviewers for unknown reasons slated it for not having 8GB which still boggles me as you can clearly see it handles 4k just fine.....

Anyway as long as those who bought them are happy :)
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Lets be fair, it mostly loses.

Personally I was hoping it would beat a Ti. Remains to be seen if it will ever even match one. However if they sort the pump issues I will still be getting one......:confused::p
 
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