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I have noticed that everyone is constantly Badmouthing this CPU
Why?
This accompanied with a 560ti and 16gb 1600mhz ram runs skyrim at 60fps solidly on ultra with hd pack also runs wow at 80-110fps
This is my personal experience with this so far and really don't see why people are going on about low performance


Have fun flaming me about having a "wrong" CPU :)
 
A CPU makes no difference to your FPS as long as it is providing enough power to escape being CPU limited in the game in question or bottlenecking your GPU.

This does not make the 8120 a good CPU. It makes it a sufficient CPU that gets trounced by far superior offerings.
 
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A simple deduction that takes little to no intelligence and 5 minutes of analysis/research from resources readily available online.

Short ends of the stick is this - Your 8120 will be too slow/out-dated far faster than a superior i7 chip that has far more headroom.
 
What I've personally learned *through reading countless reviews/benchmarks* is that the bulldozer architecture is quite new and not able to be fully used just yet so we don't see performance like we should in comparison with the competition.
 
What I've personally learned *through reading countless reviews/benchmarks* is that the bulldozer architecture is quite new and not able to be fully used just yet so we don't see performance like we should in comparison with the competition.

Windows 8 will hold the key from what I've read, will bring 10-15% gains in performance due to actual support of the architecture.
 
Windows 8 will hold the key from what I've read, will bring 10-15% gains in performance due to actual support of the architecture.

No. It will improve performance slightly in some multithreaded applications....but it's not going to make the CPU any better tbh.
 
No. It will improve performance slightly in some multithreaded applications....but it's not going to make the CPU any better tbh.

Actually its the other way round. It is lightly threaded performance which will improve slightly and multi-threaded performance which will not change.
 
Its a tosh CPU by price/performance standards of intels offering, but for most people its performance would be fine.
AMD totally changed their CPU layout and this won't be fully utilized until later on, but it was the same with AMD64 where some of its speed/power wasn't fully accessed till later on [but it had the power in other areas and intel was pumping out tosh cpus this aspect wasn't as noticeable]. Once the instruction sets are being utilized and the tech has been refined a bit i am sure [hope] they will be more competitive. CPU's reach a limit soon of how smaller they can go and putting more cores seems to be what we are going to have until they change tech. but how much power do you need? anyone want to take a guess when my i7 920 will be a serious bottleneck?
 
It'll be like how when intel first brought out new architecture (can't remember for which one exactly) it was fairly bad and took time to "mature". Give it some time, the next gen will be better i hope that's if AMD continue to make them at the enthusiast level.
 
dear me, Bulldozer does well in some things, poor in others, how about we leave it at that...? also be careful where you read reviews, some of them are shocking bad, Toms Hardware being an example where the review is designed to make Bulldozer look as bad as possible by not adding any benchmarks that might potentially favour the modular, many core, many threaded architecture.

below listed from the OCUK Forum holy grail site (Anandtech):

CB11.5 single threaded test = beaten by 2500K.
CB11.5 multi-threaded test = defeats 2500K
x264 first pass performance = beaten by 2500K.
x264 second pass performance = defeats 2500K.
7-Zip benchmark = defeats 2500K.
AES-128 benchmark = defeats 2500K.

faster than 2500K four times out of six, pretty relevant considering the sort of test it performs better than the 2500K in, those that are multi-threaded.

in-fact so far as I have noticed, most things that aren't games tend to do quite well on Bulldozer whenever the thread count heads upwards, also let us not forget the competitor to the 8120/8150 is the 2500/2500K, not the 2600K, that was never the intention, look at their slides for where Bulldozer is positioned and the 2600K is up top, all by its lonesome with no direct competitor. the competition = one Bulldozer module vs. one Intel core.

in the grand scheme of things, for a processor that is fabricated on a less than perfect, immature process, with cache latency troubles, inefficient programming with 33% less resources in each 'part-core' it performs reasonable, based on those sorts of comments, Bulldozer as an architecture = winner, as a product not so much, not at the moment at least.

know immediately that someone will say 'those benchmarks favour Bulldozer so it isn't valid...' but then 99% of the anti-Bulldozer arguments feature swathes of gaming benchmarks, an area that it is not designed to perform 'well' in. given the fact most games are bottlenecked through graphics, and the world is becoming ever more threaded suggests that the principle of 'Bulldozer will be slow, out-dated before X Intel processor' might not be so true, I for one look forward to seeing how it goes, many cores, great parallelism vs. less, strong cores, am 100% sure the trend will continue with one winning some benchmarks and the other winning the others, its more competitive than K10.5 ever was just so happens the area where it lacks, single-threaded, games in particular is the area where K10.5 is consistently stronger.
 
As above, Bulldozer isn't a bad CPU. Its just a bad choice if you are mainly playing games (since there are CPUs like the intel i5 which perform much better in games for a similar price) -here is a benchmark of the 8150 (including the hotfixes) against the i5 2500K in skyrim, here is another list of gaming benchmarks on both CPUs.

That said, If you use a lot of multithreaded applications then a Bulldozer like the FX-8120 (which is only £150 now, £20 less if you get the cashback through) is a decent option (as pointed out by Gashman- referencing this review on anandtech).

However, since the most intensive activity most OCUK users (usually myself included) require their PCs for is gaming - then it has picked up a pretty bad reputation, which isn't entirely deserved.
 
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BD sucks, plain and simple. It wont get any better with time either, by that i mean the chips we have available will still suck a few years from now, BD needs architecture revisions to be competitive and that means new chips. What we have available today is a massive failure unfortunately.

- Lousy games performance
- Cant beat 3 year old nehalem in many things
- Gets beaten by phenom II X4 sometimes
- Gets beaten by phenom II X6 most of the time
- Power hog when overclocked

Basically in a nutshell people who could make the best use of BD will be doing something so niche they likely wont have to ask what chip they should buy they will know already. For the vast majority BD is a lousy buy, snagging a cheap X6 would've been a better choice for an AM3 platform.
 
hmm it seems like no one actually reads what i wrote i run wow at 110fps (on max settings ofcourse) there is no way that those benchmarks are right as for other games ive yet to see a game that this chip with a 560ti won't run at atleast 60fps on max settings
 
What I dont get is why everyone gets a bee in their bonnet about the FX Chips as soon as they are mentioned.

I use my FX8150 for a lot of gaming and i'm not seeing any of this lousy performance, to be honest if i had any other chip that did perfom any better while im playing BF3 for example, id either have to take up not blinking to see the extra frames or look over benchmarks after playing to reassure myself that its better.

As far as i can tell the general concensus is if you say bulldozer is a crappy chip, your chasing numbers and statistics and slating a perfectly fine CPU. Aslong as there is a comparison to be made something will always be deemed as the underdog and not worth anyones time which is where Bulldozer enters the ring. I know its marked as a disapointment based on its expectations prior to its release but i put one in my PC and its fine im certainly not disapointed.

My opinion is certainly not one of a hardcore PC enthusiast so bare that in mind.
 
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