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G.Skill ULL DDR5
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But at what cost?We have stock incoming.
Cancelled our incoming stock for now, two reasons some compatibility issues but also pricing that was nothing short of daylight robbery, lets just say 32GB kits would have been retailing around £1000, until they review pricing the ULL from G.Skill is on hold.
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Hells teeth
I also think that if you stocked the RAM at that price, you might sell a few kits but it's probably not worth the blowback from a few people who still can't understand that OC have to pay a certain amount, OC aren't making insane profit margins and they also think that RAM should cost £100 for a 64gig kit at 8000 MT/s.
It's just not worth it.
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Looking at this review https://www.techspot.com/article/3147-amd-expo-ull-ultra-low-latency-memory/
This is not worth the extra cost unless you’re super fine with spending a ton of money on a ready made solution.
You can still do this by yourself with a day of two of tweaking and research with your existing RAM.
I thought this was better NAND chiplets with lower latency built in, like the days of Samsung B die but with the golden sampling already applied and better timing as an extra step to improve performance.
This is just automated RAM overclocking at much higher prices.
This is not worth the extra cost unless you’re super fine with spending a ton of money on a ready made solution.
You can still do this by yourself with a day of two of tweaking and research with your existing RAM.
I thought this was better NAND chiplets with lower latency built in, like the days of Samsung B die but with the golden sampling already applied and better timing as an extra step to improve performance.
This is just automated RAM overclocking at much higher prices.
Absolutely mental!
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Thats just insane, is memory pricing showing no signs of slowing?
Price trend still remain upwards.
Its basically all about trying to hunt down old stocks at distribution or see if a manufacturer has been sitting on old stock and wants to do a deal.
OcUK has 32GB kits from £299-£359 from many brands, even including super low latency 6000MHz C28 parts, which no competitor can get close too, were about £100 cheaper on low-latency 6000MHz kits with guaranteed SK-Hynix IC.
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still waiting for 6kc26 kits to be in stock if they ever do come back
We can get G.Skill but 32Gb C26 will be about £1200 now and 64Gb £2500
We have V-Colour and Klevv C28 same IC as G.Skill so can probably be tweaked down to C26 and these are under £350 for 32Gb kits
You’d have to be crazy to pay nearly four times more for the exact same thing as these are all made by SK Hynix who are now the highest quality IC and best for clocking.
Sweet lord.
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is the Ai industry paying these prices?? are the v-colour and klevv's ic's binned as well as the 6kc26 part??
It really saddens me to see whats happening, i rarely play games but i still want a highend PC to tweak, tinker and have a bit of fun with but no so sure i wanna sell a kidney to continue with my hobby. Can't see me buying another GPU as the way things are either. Crazy, how times have changed.
It's just crap isn't it.
Well Klevv is SK-Hynix a little like Crucial was Micron. Micron closed down the Crucial Retail outlet. SK-Hynix made the decision to keep KLEVV and to focus on consumer, it is working for them as KLEVV is selling like crazy for us as those in the know understand it is SK-Hynix so the quality is guaranteed. So any Klevv module will be rather tweakable.
V-Color like G.Skill generally work exclusively with SK-Hynix for IC supply with it been the best on the market for overclockability and outright performance, so the V-Color modules tend to overclock and tweak nicely also.
Basically in this new world, the memory market has been turned upside down and I'd personally rate brands as follows:
1. KLEVV (SK-Hynix)
2. V-Color (SK-Hynix)
3. G.Skill (Mainly SK-Hynix)
4. Patriot (Sk-Hynix, Micron, Samsung)
5. Kingston (SK-Hynix, Micron, Samsung))
6. Adata (SK-Hynix, Micron, Samsung)
7. TeamGroup (SK-Hynix, Micron, Samsung)
8. Corsair (SK-Hynix, Micron, Samsung, CMXT)
9. Lexar (CMXT, Micron)
In current market from quality, performance and value prospect I feel KLEVV, V-Color and Patriot are unbeatable right now if you want 6000MHz C30 or C28 memory, OcUK has several SKU's from these vendors around £350.
I'd like to promote G.Skill but feel they have become very greedy, if V-Color can offer a C28 6000MHz SKU for around £350, then I'd expect G.Skill to be relatively close but at twice the cost for essentially same product, tough pill to swallow.
Kingston and Adata do have some fantastic value options still at lower speed frequencies.
Anything using CXMT I'd not touch it unless it was at least around 30-40% cheaper than equivalent SK-Hynix SKU.
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thanks for the breakdown @Gibbo, i have Klevv's in my system currently, just raw [email protected] no expo, no xmp but can run 6600c26 no bother, they just don't wanna play at 8000+ but they did pretty well on my 13900KS, unless your binning many kits nothing appears to match the g.skill 6000c26 kits on ryzen/Apex, those boards bios are without question tailored for that particular kit. So im either gonna have to wait it out(for a long time!) or pay the money it seems
Not watched video.
My guess is it’s nothing you cannot match yourself by optimising your memories latencies and sub timings. I doubt there is any physical hardware difference just more fine tuned on timings so no doubt better binning.
We will stock once we get offered some at pricing that is not silly.
HI there
So we now have some G.SKILL EXPO ULL kits incoming, pricing is better than where it is, but to be frank it is still ludricous, but for those who have unlimited cash can buy a G.SKILL kit EXPO ULL soon, though I do not recommend it, AVOID as its terrible value for money for what is a maximum potential boost of upto 4% over EXPO.
However in good news, over the past months I've been discussing EXPO ULL with our new top performing memory brand, V-Color.
The result we also have EXPO ULL kits incoming from V-Color with OLED display in 6000/6400MHz frequencies with CL30 and CL28 timings kits, even better we shall be pricing these cheaper than our competitors sell regular EXPO CL30 Corsair kits for, as such the uplift in price is typically 10-20%, so still not great value, but far superior to G.Skill in value and we will have great availability. So if you want the best, we have it and these you can only buy from OcUK as I have negotiated exclusivity rights for our entire group within EMEA.
The products are not online yet but shall aim to have them live for next week, so they can be pre-ordered, so EXPO-ULL available very soon from OcUK cheaper than our competitors sell regular EXPO kits for.
So we now have some G.SKILL EXPO ULL kits incoming, pricing is better than where it is, but to be frank it is still ludricous, but for those who have unlimited cash can buy a G.SKILL kit EXPO ULL soon, though I do not recommend it, AVOID as its terrible value for money for what is a maximum potential boost of upto 4% over EXPO.
However in good news, over the past months I've been discussing EXPO ULL with our new top performing memory brand, V-Color.
The result we also have EXPO ULL kits incoming from V-Color with OLED display in 6000/6400MHz frequencies with CL30 and CL28 timings kits, even better we shall be pricing these cheaper than our competitors sell regular EXPO CL30 Corsair kits for, as such the uplift in price is typically 10-20%, so still not great value, but far superior to G.Skill in value and we will have great availability. So if you want the best, we have it and these you can only buy from OcUK as I have negotiated exclusivity rights for our entire group within EMEA.
The products are not online yet but shall aim to have them live for next week, so they can be pre-ordered, so EXPO-ULL available very soon from OcUK cheaper than our competitors sell regular EXPO kits for.