G-Sync is Dead. VESA Adds Adaptive-Sync to DisplayPort Standard

Orangey · 23 Aug 2015 at 05:46

Mauller said:
Checkout my doubles.
Doubles and this thread goes down hill fast.

oh wait, wrong part of the Internets. i have not traveled to that part of the internet to wade in fecal matter in a long time.

Dave2150 · 23 Aug 2015 at 06:09

Next stunt NVIDIA will play will be to disregard the PCI-E standard, and offer a G-SLOT connection, which now locks you into one GPU vendor on a motherboard level.

andybird123 · 23 Aug 2015 at 07:10

So if freesync was going to kill gsync off, wouldn't we expect the massive sales of freesync monitors to already be affecting gsync prices?

Because looking at pricing, the freesync ones are the ones with massive discounts and gsync ones are still full price.

Stanners · 23 Aug 2015 at 08:27

andybird123 said:
So if freesync was going to kill gsync off, wouldn't we expect the massive sales of freesync monitors to already be affecting gsync prices?

Because looking at pricing, the freesync ones are the ones with massive discounts and gsync ones are still full price.

It is difficult to kill something off when your market share is so small!

saintdefender · 23 Aug 2015 at 08:38

I have a G-Sync monitor, but I am in full support of this : )

Stanners · 23 Aug 2015 at 08:41

I would like Nvidia to pull their finger out and allow both technologies on the same monitor.

pgi947 · 23 Aug 2015 at 09:25

I hope they keep gsync going, it gives them a platform for other improvements without having to wait for vesa to implement them.

whyscotty · 23 Aug 2015 at 09:28

Stanners said:
I would like Nvidia to pull their finger out and allow both technologies on the same monitor.

^^^
This

DarrenM343 · 23 Aug 2015 at 09:37

While I don't deny that I think having monitors that support both techs would be best, if we look at which tech is the best I think probably G-Sync comes out on top? Therefore I have no issue in it being proprietary as it's been developed by one company to be better than the "open std". I think I read somewhere in another thread that Freesync doesn't handle two cards well at least yet?
G-sync has probably received more $ investment than freesync.

Proprietary stuff is used by many companies - look at the popular Apple phones for example.
Another way to look at it -maybe other companies could have licenced the use of G-sync from Nvidia but no they probably didn't want to do that so now have two different takes on the technology with specific monitor requirements

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Gregster · 23 Aug 2015 at 10:19

Stanners said:
I would like Nvidia to pull their finger out and allow both technologies on the same monitor.

Spot on. It would be great if Nvidia kept G-Sync to appease the likes of me and also adopted Freesync (said to **** Martini off

) and used A-Sync as well. They will have a choice of the whole market on screens then.

Marine-RX179 · 23 Aug 2015 at 10:32

andybird123 said:
So if freesync was going to kill gsync off, wouldn't we expect the massive sales of freesync monitors to already be affecting gsync prices?

Because looking at pricing, the freesync ones are the ones with massive discounts and gsync ones are still full price.

Why would Freesync affect the Gsync monitor pricing when people are stuck with Nvidia card that can't use it? Also of most Freesync monitors so far, their pricing are pretty much inline with the standard monitor which that base on that hasn't got adaptive-sync compatability on the display port; Gsync monitor on the other hand as a very clear average of £150 price premium comparing to the same model standard monitor that it base on that hasn't got Gsync.

If Gsync is superior as people claim, that Nvidia by all mean can keep supporting it, but at the same time, they should support adaptive-sync as well with their future cards releases.

Stop forcing Coca-cola on people, and give people the choice to choose between Coca-cola and Pepsi depend on their preference (and budget).

andybird123 · 23 Aug 2015 at 11:21

Marine-RX179 said:
Stop forcing Coca-cola on people, and give people the choice to choose between Coca-cola and Pepsi depend on their preference (and budget).

Why would coca-cola want you to buy pepsi?
Nonsense comparison.

There is one easy way to get nvidia to open up support of adaptive sync - stop buying gsync. When you can convince people to do that then... well actually if everyone stops buying nvidia stuff they'll just stop innovating, but hey thats what we want right?

StrongSad · 23 Aug 2015 at 11:24

If it is added to the display port standard, won't Nvidia have to adopt it regardless, as it is the "standard"??? I am sure you can't pick and choose what parts of a standard you implement unless you chose not to implement that standard.
Getting left behind over time wont help sales if in 2-3 years you are still on old tech, HDMi 2.0 as an example as I am sure AMD regret that choice. There are those, however small, who are buying Nvidia because of it.

andybird123 · 23 Aug 2015 at 11:26

it's optional, no one is forced to support adaptive sync

the scaler and monitor manufacturers won't accept that either as it does add a small extra cost and it would prevent them from releasing the lower end monitors that really don't need it (and if they wanted AMD Freesync certification they would have to send EVERY monitor they make to AMD for certification, which is just not practical for the manufacturers or for AMD)

fs123 · 23 Aug 2015 at 11:27

Strudders said:
If it is added to the display port standard, won't Nvidia have to adopt it regardless, as it is the "standard"??? I am sure you can't pick and choose what parts of a standard you implement unless you chose not to implement that standard.
Getting left behind over time wont help sales if in 2-3 years you are still on old tech, HDMi 2.0 as an example as I am sure AMD regret that choice. There are those, however small, who are buying Nvidia because of it.

The Adaptive sync feature is 'optional' so Nvidia get out of adding it. It's possible that Nvidia and monitor makers had a say in that aspect when it was being considered by VESA.

Gregster · 23 Aug 2015 at 11:29

andybird123 · 23 Aug 2015 at 11:29

fs123 said:
The Adaptive sync feature is 'optional' so Nvidia get out of adding it. Possible they had a say in that aspect when it was being considered for inclusion since it would have killed off G-sync pretty quick.

the monitor and scaler makers would have had a much bigger say - adding adaptive sync is not a "no cost" option, the lower end scalers would all need a respin which for an ASIC is a considerable cost for no benefit to the vast majority of people

Martini1991 · 23 Aug 2015 at 11:48

Strudders said:
If it is added to the display port standard, won't Nvidia have to adopt it regardless, as it is the "standard"??? I am sure you can't pick and choose what parts of a standard you implement unless you chose not to implement that standard.
Getting left behind over time wont help sales if in 2-3 years you are still on old tech, HDMi 2.0 as an example as I am sure AMD regret that choice. There are those, however small, who are buying Nvidia because of it.

It's optional in the 1.2A specification. People seem to forget this, it's not like it's been the case for over a year now.........

That said, it's been pretty obvious from current monitors, the price to implement is little. I'd love for it to be mandatory, adaptive sync monitors are still premium products.

arc@css · 23 Aug 2015 at 11:49

Gregster said:
IMG

Martini1991 · 23 Aug 2015 at 11:51

andybird123 said:
the monitor and scaler makers would have had a much bigger say - adding adaptive sync is not a "no cost" option, the lower end scalers would all need a respin which for an ASIC is a considerable cost for no benefit to the vast majority of people

In future with further display port revisions, when we're manufacturing new, then it'd make sense for it to be mandatory.